cool Posted July 20, 2005 Share Posted July 20, 2005 Hi, this is a very nice 1870 EKII from my collection. The ring has been replaced at sometime for a brass one. The cross measures 42mm and the arms 23mm. I am sure it was made between 1870 and the 1890's, any feedback on this would be great.! I hope you all like this one as much as i do.! Thanks for looking, Cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Panzer57 Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 I'm no expert on crosses, and the ring probably has a story of it's own, but it looks to be a nice cross Cool. Maybe Mr. Williamson will give you his opinion on this one?cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stogieman Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 Odd brass suspension ring. Details not quite as sharp/distinct as I like to see on an 1870. Core looks oddly grained as well.Possibly later manufacture, ca 1895 for the jubilee. But, having said all this, much clearer/larger photos are needed to be definitive on this cross. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cool Posted July 23, 2005 Author Share Posted July 23, 2005 Hi, im sorry Stogieman, but that's the best i can do on the photo department.! I was wondering,? Mr Williamson's book the Iron Cross a history, says that the 1870 EKII should be 42mm across,! is this just for crosses made between 1870 and 1890.? The details on this cross are much better in the flesh Stogieman, and the workmanship that has been put into this cross is 1st class.! It is only the brass ring that lets it down. Thanks, Cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Williamson Posted July 23, 2005 Share Posted July 23, 2005 The 1870s I have had which I believe to have been of that period were generally fractionally smaller than those which I was confident were of later manufacture (1870s were still being made during the 3rd Reich period). Somewhere between 42-43mm being typical for "original" 1870s, with 43-44mm for later made pieces, but I wouldn't be too prescriptive on this, other features are more "telling" than simply the size.Rick will know his Imperial EKs much better than me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Brian von Etzel Posted July 23, 2005 Share Posted July 23, 2005 I can't see it well enough to know whether it's period or not but it appears it was converted into a medalbar piece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer57 Posted July 23, 2005 Share Posted July 23, 2005 So from what I am understanding, the size of the one Cool posted at 42mm is correct for the early versions. But Mr. Williamson what do you mean by, the other features are more telling?Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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