Nick

Interesting pics. My interest in Malta is more Napoleonic and it was great to see the pics of the old fortifications.

As today is the 201st Anniversary of the Battle of Trafalgar I thought I would post Nelson last entry in his diary before the battle commenced. Pretty humbling stuff.....

Monday, October 21st, 1805.

At daylight saw the Enemy's Combined Fleet from East to E.S.E.; bore away; made the signal for Order of Sailing, and to Prepare for Battle; the Enemy with their heads to the Southward: at seven the Enemy wearing in succession. May the Great God, whom I worship, grant to my Country, and for the benefit of Europe in general, a great and glorious Victory; and may no misconduct in any one tarnish it; and may humanity after Victory be the predominant feature in the British Fleet. For myself, individually, I commit my life to Him who made me, and may his blessing light upon my endeavours for serving my Country faithfully. To Him I resign myself and the just cause which is entrusted to me to defend. Amen. Amen. Amen.

Gentlemen

An interesting debate which has been brought to my attention. I would ask that members are a little more tolerate of other personal opinion, healthy polite debate is a good thing. But I dislike post that have a clear undertones of a political or indeed even potentially a racist interpretation. Mr Zulus you remarks are bordering on offensive and is a clear breach of gentlemanly etiquette. I do not like ?them and us? comparisons and the categorization or stereotyping of people in terms of racial profile, is a rather odious concept which leads me to question your motivation.

Definitely British Police. IP is Imperial (Indian) Police . Cap Badge is Kings Crown with a GR. Rank is (possibly assistant) District Superintendent. This is No 1 Dress.

As for medal well it isn't an Royal Victorian Order....

Barry

Very nicely presented items, makes such a difference to see something so tastefully done.

Barry

Very nice series of prints. I also love period miniatures, I have a couple which I will photograph and post later. The miniature I use as my avatar is a period portrait of a Royal Artillery officer who has the same name as myself, unfortunately not directly related to my family. I have a couple of period prints and miniatures, but the miniatures are mainly of gentlemen in civilian attire. The military ones are so expensive by comparison.

Keeping on the Naval Theme.

I picked this up at a Beltring in the Summer. Marble plaque with the relief from Nelsons Column in Trafalgar Sq of the fall of Nelson. It has an inscription on the back. A nice item probably quite modern but not bad for ?30. !

Barry

Thanks for overview, well done !

Do you have the original letter ?

I visited Aspley House a couple of weeks ago which is the London home of the Duke of Wellington. Some fantastic items are held there including the first Dukes swords, medals and decorations as well as a lot of items presented by European Monarchs after Waterloo. It was also interesting to see some of Bonapartes personal items including paintings of Josephine and his brother Joseph. I wish there had been more campaign memorabilia there, but it is well worth a visit and often missed by tourists visiting London.

http://www.english-heritage.org.uk/server....conProperty.410

As Ed says no sense whatsoever. Highly unlikey that someone who was a policeman in 1887 or 1897 would be then awarded a CSC after 1901. Even if he was ex Royal Navy and got recalled in 1914 (he would not be young man by this time) I have no records of any DSC winners who were policemen. Lots of DSMs and a few MCs etc but no DSCs. I do not think any Police from the Navy got recalled for the Boer War (lots of army) and again he would have had to have been a warrant or junior officer so again unlikely career move to police.

I do like these interesting queries !

I also thought about the St Johns idea (with the black having faded) but I am not sure that the British St Johns ever had a single white stripe. Also would the Jubilee medal not have taken precedence ?

Interesting not sure if it police. If it is the centre medal ribbon is the 1887 or 1897 Queen Victoria's Golden Jubilee Medal for Police ( Metropolitan & City Police). That would leave the end medal as something like the Conspicious Gallantry Cross which is not really on the cards for someone who was a police officer in 1887 or 1897.

The left white ribbon may be masonic ? That could make them all masonic ?

This thread really makes me contemplate going down the stick pin route is Husken the best reference for this area ?

Interesting item. However the same coat of arms is still used today and although the Polish call it Gdansk the Germans still even today still call it Danzig. So it is going to be very difficult to date.

Any idea on age ?

Goebbels was a master spin-doctor. Nothing more, and nothing less

I would agree to the first comment but he was much more than this, he was a ruthless fanatic, a dangerous politician, and was one of the real architects and believers in National Socialism. His nihilistic viewpoint fell in line with Hitler?s idea of total war and supported the total destruction of the German State, not to mention the destruction of the Jewish race. A man with much blood on his hands, included his own children. Much, much more than a master spin doctor....in my humble opinion.

Gentlemen,

Please keep this a civil discussion.

Fakes are made where ever there are fakers to make them.

I agree that we are all entitled to our own opinions, but lets not fall into the trap of stereotyping and broaden our minds to the concept that fakes are produced by all countries and to label all medals coming out of Asia as being suspect is simply ridiculous.

I also agree with Ed that your comment

because they woukld fake even their grandmas if they would sell

Gentlemen this is an international forum please be mindful of what you say there a many Asian members of this forum and it not becoming to make insults to fellow members

I have PM'd you on the waffenrock.

Nick

Cheers

I will try and get there.

Welcome to the forum.

Don

I bought it off an old guy who ran a junk shop he said it was displayed in the window of houses. It is a little smaller than a postcard with no gum and is blank on the reverse.

Reinhard Tieste does a series of books on WHW Items, I have the first volume but there is a volume just for T?rplaketten !

Here is I believe an example of a T?rplaketten which I found in N?rnberg, it is made of paper.

Certainly is excellent news to have both these new knowledgeable additions to the club.

Eric has yet again been very gracious in allowing all members to have for free the latest edition of his excellent ground breaking work The Decorations of Socialist Albania 2nd Edition.

It is available in PDF (9MB) and as before the work is copyright to Eric Schena.

The Decorations of Socialist Albania 2nd Edition

The horror of that day is beyond our comprehension today. It makes the combat situation in Iraq seem like a picnic by comparison. Cheers for posting that vivid account of one mans battle at the start of that infamous battle which saw 20,000 British Empire troops killed with 40,000 wounded that day, and a total of 420,000 wounded and 150,000 killed (British Empire troops) in the five months it lasted.

Cheers Rick

Any pics of the RAD eagles or devices ?