johnnyrocket

These are great images.

This is a great thread, keep up the good work.

Here is a link to a site that fits perfect into this thread. Great images of RCMP wallet badges too (active and retired).

Johnny R.

http://www.rcmpolice.ca/kit.html

Johnny R.

FYI: Top military honour now cast in Canada: report

http://www.ctvnews.ca/top-military-honour-now-cast-in-canada-report-1.231701

http://www.jeanpaulleblanc.com/Canada1.htm

CTV.ca News Staff

Published Saturday, Mar. 3, 2007 11:21PM EST

A Victoria Cross medal has been produced in Canada for the first time, and there are reports it will be presented by the Queen in April.

The Globe and Mail reported Saturday that Queen Elizabeth will present the medal at a ceremony marking the 90th anniversary of the Battle of Vimy Ridge in France.

The move would restore the medal -- awarded just 1,350 times since it was installed by Queen Victoria in the 1850s after the Crimean War -- to the top spot in Canada's list of military decorations.

Only 94 Canadians have received the medal.

The Victoria Cross was first awarded to a Canadian in 1856, and most recently in 1945. None of the recipients are still living.

In the past, the medals were cast by Hancock, a London jewellery retailer, but a source has told The Globe the medal has now been designed and produced in Canada for the first time.

Emmanuelle Sajous, deputy herald chancellor at Rideau Hall, said it would be at least a couple of weeks before final decisions are made about how the made-in-Canada Victoria Cross will be presented to the public.

"Nothing is confirmed," Sajous said. "We don't have any details about how and who and where and when. There are a lot of options and a lot of different events being planned."

The departments of Veterans' Affairs, Defence, Canadian Heritage and Natural Resources -- along with the Royal Canadian Mint -- have all been involved in the design.

Military historian Jack Granatstein told The Globe the physical reinstatement of the Victoria Cross is a milestone for Canada.

"There is clearly an attachment to the VC as a pretty scarce gallantry award," said the former director-general of the Canadian War Museum.

"It will be a continuation of the past and it will be done in a Canadian context. I guess in a sense it's the capping of the Canadian honours system so I think it's a good thing."

Government sources have told The Globe the medal will be presented to Prime Minister Stephen Harper by the Queen at the Vimy Ridge ceremony in recognition of the gallantry of the Unknown Soldier, whose remains rest in a tomb next to the National War Memorial in Ottawa.

The soldier, whose body was exhumed from a cemetery near Vimy Ridge in 2000, was one of 1,603 unidentified Canadian troops who died in the First World War battle.

The battle, which took place on April 9, 1917, is often considered a key moment in Canada's military history. Roughly 10,000 Canadians were wounded and 3,598 of those succumbed to their injuries.

The ceremony in April will serve two purposes. It will commemorate the anniversary of the battle and serve as the dedication for the newly restored Canadian National Vimy Memorial.

The Royal Canadian Legion has lobbied the government for years to reinstate the medal, which was put aside in 1972 in favour of a Canadian honours system.

The move to design and cast the medal in Canada should put an end to years of controversy over whether Canadian soldiers should receive an award that has British origins.

The Canadian VC is awarded for "most conspicuous bravery, a daring or pre-eminent act of valour or self-sacrifice or extreme devotion to duty in the presence of the enemy."

There are few differences between the Canadian and British medals. The Canadian decoration can be revoked and it bears the Latin inscription Pro Valore rather than For Valour.

The British medals are cast from bronze of Chinese origin that was used in Russian cannons captured at the conclusion of the Crimean War, but there is no word yet on what type of metal will be used to make the Canadian medals.

Read more: http://www.ctvnews.ca/top-military-honour-now-cast-in-canada-report-1.231701#ixzz24QNwv4Sd

Thanks Laurence, this has been very helpful.

Johnny R.

Does anyone have any further detail information on this Canadian high military award, other than what you can get on Google?

Any high resolution Images that can be posted here.

I'm doing some indepth research on this award and though I would go to my Forum friends for help.

Johnny R.

RCMP ID BADGES:

Somebody asked in an earlier posting about a current issue RCMP ID Badge. The attached picture depicts one. When a member retires, he is allowed to retain his ID Badge, but it is imbedded in a lucite block. There is no easy way to remove the badge from the lucite, so when one does, it usually damagages the blue enamel. Hope this helps.

What is the dimensions (in inches) on the badge? Nice posting Bermuda.

Johnny R. :-)

This is as good as your going to get from an original VC:

http://www.ebay.com/...1#ht_626wt_1110

Johnny R.

I've recently learned that the issued RCMP wallet (carry) badge has the inside center seal/shield in plated silver—of course it has an issuing ID number. Please not that by comparison, the retirement badge is all gold with blue enameling.

Johnny R. :D

We have apologised to Paul - however, with no posts since December, we feel this topic has to be un-pinned.

Keep adding new threads and maintain interest and it will remain high on the list.

OK, Does anyone have a current image (5th design version of this badge) of the RCMP wallet (Carry) badge?

I've since learned that the "RCMP Wallet Badge" has the center Shield Emblem is in silver on the

issued badge. Is this information correct?

The retirement badge I have does not have any markings on the reverse of the badge.

Johnny R.

-The Canadian Star of Military Valour

Modern Honours of Canada (1972)

Click on picture for larger image (63K).

Terms

The Star of Military Valour is the second highest Military Valour Decoration of Canada. It "shall be awarded for distinguished and valiant service in the presence of the enemy."

Bar

Each subsequent award of the Star will be indicated by a plain gold bar with a maple leaf in the centre attached to the ribbon from which the medal is suspended.

Description

The Star of Military Valour consists of a gold star with four points with a maple leaf in each of the angles.

Obverse

The front side shows a gold maple leaf superimposed in the centre on a sanguine field surrounded by a silver wreath of laurel.

Reverse

The reverse shows the Royal Cypher and Crown with the inscription "PRO VALORE".

Ribbon

The medal will be worn on the left breast of the uniform, suspended from a ribbon. Recipients may wear a miniature version of the Decorations on all occasion when it is customary.

Naming

The rank and the name of the recipient is engraved below the "PRO VALORE" inscription.

Dates

A formal request for the creation of a family of Military Valour Decorations was signed by the Prime Minister of Canada on December 31, 1992. The Queen approved the Letters Patent on February 2, 1993.

History

As part of the Canadian honours system, a family of three Military Valour Decorations, comprising the Victoria Cross (VC), the Star of Military Valour (SMV) and the Medal of Military Valour (MMV) has been designated and styled. These medals are being incorporated into the Canadian honours and awards system to enable Canada to recognize members of the Canadian Forces, or members of an allied armed force serving with or in conjunction with the CF, for deeds of military valour.

As part of the British Empire and later Commonwealth, Canada relied on the British honours system to recognize service members for gallantry in battle. Since the Second World War, Canada developed its own honour system, and expanded it considerably in the late 1960's and early 1970's. For example, in 1972 Canada developed its own decoration for bravery in peacetime. However, a set of Canadian honours recognizing gallantry by military personnel in the presence of an enemy was not established.

Eligibility

For all three Military Valour Decorations, recipients must be a member of the Canadian Forces or a member of an allied armed force that is serving with or in conjunction with the Canadian Forces, on or after January 1, 1993. Military Valour Decorations can be awarded posthumously.

A person must be recommended by the Military Valour Decoration Advisory Committee. This committee is made up of one person appointed by the Governor General, and fiveCF members appointed by the Chief of Defence Staff. Field commanders can also grant Military Valour Decorations, but they must first have the Governor General's approval.

Johnny R.

Ps: I think this is one of the most beautifully designed awards for valor in the world.

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The actual badge is in another location (FL) I'll have to check when I get there. I would even like to have even a good reproduction of this badge (for a filler) for my collections. I've never have seen any of these for sale or even available on the badge collecting market (real or repro). Some say this is an obsolete version of the RCMP ID badge (?) Is there a new version out there? What do these things run for ($) cost wise?

Johnny R.

No markings on the back, but very well made with two catch pins on the reverse of the badge. Given to Retirees of the RCMP

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Thought this would be an interesting thread/link for any American Military researcher

http://www.military.com/benefits/resources/army-uniform

Johnny R.

Here is an RCMP/Veteran's version badge (current design).

Johnny R.

Thanks Les for the information.

As far as a official RCMP web site having any of the issued RCMP badges (all 5 designs together)— there is not any as far as I know. I only assume that this is the current issued badge—because this is the design used for the mini and "charm bracelet" badge items you see for sale from the official RCMP gift sites...I would assume that they would manufacture the current designed version for sale and not an older version of the ID wallet badge.

Johnny R.

This is the older obsolete 4th version design:

Johnny R,

Have you tried contacting the Press Office of the RCMP for a photo of their current I.D. Badge, I have found them very helpful with info and photos in the past, however with the current problems in the world they may not be willing to provide the information from a security point of view but it is worth asking.

It is difficult to value these badges as Canadians value them higher than anyone else, which is probably understandable. I have seen them offered in the past at about the same value as an LAPD series 6 badge, so it really does come down to how much you want to pay.

Can the seller not provide you with a photo of the back of the badge before you get there?

Regards,

Les

Hi Les,

Those series 6 LAPD badges go for big money. I'll try to get an image of the reverse sent to me...or find out what's on the back (hallmarks, etc.) I've also seen "Veterans" RCMP badges (?) what ever that is...wonder what the difference between "Veterans and Retired" versions are" From what I'm able to geather from the internet The image of the Retirement Badge in question is of the current issued design. Trying to get information out of the authorities is useless and frustrating, the collecting community knows so much more in this area of expertise.

Johnny R.

Hi Johhny R,

I think that the badge you have is of one of the many reproduction/fake badges that have been made over the years. Originals are almost impossible to find as the Retired guys are pretty proud of the fact that they were in the force and once they pass away the family tends to hang on to the badge as a family keepsake.

What is on the reverse of the badge you have ? Any hallmark or fixings?

All designs of the 'Official' I.D. badges have been faked to varying dagrees of quality ,from really poor to even better than an original.

Regards,

Les

The actual badge is in another location (FL) I'll have to check when I get there. I would even like to have even a good reproduction of this badge (for a filler) for my collections. I've never have seen any of these for sale or even available on the badge collecting market (real or repro). Some say this is an obsolete version of the RCMP ID badge (?) Is there a new version out there? What do these things run for ($) cost wise?

Johnny R.

Question:

Is this (current) RCMP/GRC "retirement badge" the same size as the regular RCMP/GRC issued ID wallet badge? I' seen some of these badges that have the word "Veteran" at the top...why is that?

Are these badges rare to obtain for a Canadian collector?

Johnny R.

Is this a real VC? The image sure looks good. What should a person look for in a original?

Johnny R.

OK, how does one you post an image on this Forum?

I see that the posting is down for repair.

This is as close to an original as your going to get without spending $30—$50,000 dollars.

Johnny R.

http://www.ebay.com/...1#ht_626wt_1110

Does anyone have High resolution images of the "Canadian Star of Military Valor". There is not much information concerning this medal on the net. Any images and descriptions would be appreciated.

Johnny R.

I have a question.

Are RCMP ID wallet "Retirement" badges scarce? I find very few are ever for sale in the states. I have a collection of retirement badges and would like to ad to this collection with a RCMP badge.

Johnny R.

Next up some very scarce badges, the official RCMP ID badges. This is the only badge that shows the number of the policeman in question and is not normally available to collectors.

This is a version for Inspectors.

Are these the current issued badges for the RCMP?

Johnny R.

Does anyone have any high resolution .jpg images of the RCMP/GRC ID Wallet Badge (Current Issued Badge)? If so, please post the images here.

Thank you.

Johnny R.