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    artofwar

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    1. Hello:

      to elaborate somewhat on the information Veteran gave:

      At the conclusion of my six years enlistment with the French Foreign Legion in early 1957 I was provided with my "Livret Individuel" which corresponds very close with veteran's detailed description of the "Etat de Services". It includes my time spent at the various units, the transit thereto, special training etc. All entries are in a very legible handwriting and to me is a very detailed record of my service.

      Bernhard H. Holst

      ex sergent , 1er RE and brigadier-chef 1er REC

      Thanks a lot - just the info I needed

      Bob

    2. Hi all,

      Can anyone explain the purpose of the 1, 2 3 or 4 page Etat de Services you see around which detail a French soldier or Officers military career , wounds and decorations ?

      Who prepares this document, where and why ?

      thanks all

      Bob

    3. Hi all,

      looking to contact a reasearcher who can work in SHAT ( Service Historique de l'Armee de Terre / Chateau de Vincennes) or the Archives (Service des Archives de l'Arm?e de Terre), to obtain copies of officer's military records., any help appreciated.

      thanks

      Bob

    4. Thanks again, Rick,

      My mistake in typing the Bavarian MVO, you are right, without swords.

      Thanks a bunch for the info on the Baden order. very much appreciated.

      As I am terribly new to Imperial German, is there some basic work or works I can read to start understanding the orders award system, like how did you know he had a Baden decoration ?? This is all very overwhelming for me. Just beginning to collect rangelists and stuff like that.

      So far I usually have been collectring Militarpass's to enlisted and NCO with very simple medal entitlements. I am only interested in theaters of war out side of the Western Front normally. altho I have a soft spot for Flanders division stuff. Also very interested in Austro-Hungarian items.

      any suggestions gratefully received.

      Bob

    5. Hi Glenn & Rick,

      Many thanks for your assistance, you have both added info that I did not have.

      I have most of his papers, promotion patents etc, and award documents and decoration for the Hohenzollern House Order. I did not have his urkunde showing he was awarded the Saxon Albert Order.

      His Bavarian Military Merit Order 4th Class with swords was warded March 12th, 1912.

      He received the Kolonialdenkmunze mit spange - DEUTSCH-OSTAFRIKA 1905-07 for his role in the Maji-Maji Rebellion in East Africa. He is also mentioned in a book I had translated and published in a limited edition of 300 copies, in 2005, called ' GERMAN SCHUTZTRUPPE IN EAST AFRICA 1889-1905 - A History of the Imperial Protectorate Force German East Africa" by Ernst Nigmann. ( A few copies still available. )

      appended below is the translation from Walter Nuhn's book on the 1905-07 Maji-Maji Revolt.

      The Morogoro Naval-Infantry Detachment ( part of a 150 man Seebattalion force sent from Germany )

      Commander Leutnant Engelbrecht

      Strength 1 Officer, 4 NCOs, 28 Men, 1 Surgeon

      Arrival 30. September 1905: Cruiser "Bussard" to Bagamojo, and from there by caravan

      Relief for the Schutztruppe unit under Captain von Wangenheim

      The Naval-Infantry Detachment had a most arduous trip: by ship to Bagamojo

      and from there by caravan to Morogoro , which wasn't reached until 30. September 1905.

      After Schutztruppe-Captain von Wangenheim left the station, the detachment didn't launch an expedition to Kilossa until after 10. November 1905 , because of the threatening situation. However, the expedition only reached Mkata.

      On 22. November 1905, the governor ordered the detachment transferred to Mpapua. It was relieved there on 04. December 1905 and transferred again, this time to Kiboriani, which was reached on 18. December 1905 . The detachment remained there until it returned home.

      Again, all your info much appreciated, am trying to reconstitute his complete group. I am a relative newcomer to Imperial German, am collecting papers, documents and groups, 1860 to 1918, and just beginning tto learn plus buy research volumes. ( so mny tat I need ) I have been primarily collecting French, Italian & US groups, 1850's to present.

      Bob

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