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    1. Claymore, I like the Viking ship on the SA logo. The symbolism, the SA as sailors?.?. As Sturm troopers, you would not expect them on the sea. It is an analogy with the Vikings who expanded from their native home. I don?t know if the SA was really active on sea?

      Nice detailed as you mentioned.The letters in a Runic script. Perhaps the signs in the flag have a meaning.

      I don?t always like plastic tinnies, but yours is beautiful because it has very nice lead grey nuances in it.

      Thanks for posting.

      Cheers,

      Benten

    2. ...and with the same badge in mind....I've just seen a fourth variant....inside the pages of Reinhard Tieste's books...

      ...just received the book's this morning, "Tagungs -und Veranstaltungsabzeichen 1930-1945"...the most recent version (2006 print)....and what do I find upon flicking through the pages....but the same badge with the wording..."Chemnitz Brigade-Appell, 29.10.33".....

      ...I will now slowly work my way through these books.....what a lot of tinnies!!!

      Hi Claymore , that is a nice artd?co tinnie . I like the well depicted action of man and horse.

      Good to have Reinhard Tieste?s book with an over vieuw of tinnies.

      Leipzig, Dresden,Chemnitz, Bautzen.

      Why so many meetings in the same time and same groups.

      Possible I have a clue?..about the helmet emblem ??I could be wrong??.

      You are right as you already mentioned the Stahlhelmbund used this emblem, BUT we should have an evidence that it really concerned the Stahlhelmbund here and not the Wehrmacht ??

      I'm not convinced it is not the Wehrmacht.

      Imo , perhaps the answer is in the situation of that time??. The helmet stands for the Wehrmacht because it was the time that the NSDAP political was established after the referendum of 12.11.1933 ( you know of the JA- tinnie).All the opposition was finished. The Stahlhelm could already be settled in the SA . The SA and the Wehrmacht and NSDAP were different powers. In principal the Wehrmacht was still an independent force . By treaty of Versailles , a ?small? group 100.000 men, but political important to have for the NSDAP . They were the best of the soldiers of WW1 .

      SA and the Wehrmacht......the purpose was ,through several meetings showing the unity (one chain around both swords) between them. Infact the SA wanted to replace the army with SA men.

      The SA, large group in january 1933, already 400.000 men, who were becoming a threat for the NSDAP concerning the power. By making an alliance with the Wehrmacht the SA would become even stronger.The NSDAP didn?t like this at all. That is why the SS (of the NSDAP) killed some month later in june 1934 the SA top ( Night of the long knives).

      I hope I didn?t make it too long :unsure:;) . I?m interested in your reply.

      Cheers,

      Benten

    3. Claymore that is a nice item to collect.

      Your tinnie is in a very good condition, usually the silver finish is partly gone.

      I?ve red somewhere that the SA dagger and sword are derivated from the ancient Roman dagger and sword.

      Here a tinnie ; the SA and Wehrmacht swords united by a chain. This tinnie is from Bautzen (rare) a place near Leipzig. In Leipzig was also was kept a meeting in 1934 with the same tinnie design, with the word Leipzig on it.

      Cheers,

      Benten

    4. It is Third Reich. You have something very special, it is numbered ; it could be a workers badge of the See Flieger Horst Kommandatur 1935-1945 ( free translated; Sea Luftwaffe Location Staff ) on the island of R?gen in the north of Germany at the Ostsee. You know where they worked on the V 1 and 2 at Peenemunde another place on R?gen .

      BUG = abbrevation of the German word Biegung means bend, curve. (of the island)

      a = auf (the island of R?gen)

      http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Ka...Deutschland.png

      Sorry I only found this in German

      http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bug_%28R%C3%BCgen%29

      Same shape as on your badge?..

      http://www.biologie.de/biowiki/Bild:Bug_%28R%C3%BCgen%29.png

      Cheers,

      Benten

    5. ?Wege zum Deutschen Osten? , ?The road to the German East?. Meeting in Gelsenkirchen 8-13.4.34. With very severe eagle . :mad:

      Depicted is the map of Ostpreussen. Before WW1 it was the ending part of the large German empire in the east. After WW1 it was still German property , but isolated from motherland Germany. Ostpreussen?s territory was surrounded by Poland and Lithuania.

      I can imagine that the Nazis wanted to have as much as possible control over their ?East? ( Ost Preussen).

      For who is interested in more, here these links ;

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gelsenkirchen

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Prussia

      Cheers,

      Benten

    6. I don?t know much about this badge.... ? Rhein Reise Dienst Beuel?Bonn ? ; translated text ?Rhine Travel Service Beuel-Bonn?.

      Beuel is a place opposite of Bonn, the Rhine divides the two cities.

      I had already the coin, on which I discovered the same picture of it from a different vieuw angle of the Rhine and bridge.

      Could the green enamelled badge be a kind of an official ferry-workers badge?

      Cheers,

      Benten

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