lambert

http://rbsc.princeton.edu/thankful-nation/case/7

Lambert

Thank you Ulterman

Hello Bill,

I found the Italian ebay

http://www.ebay.it/itm/medaglia-84-reggimento-fanteria-Firenze-1915-18-/301643615244?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_101&hash=item463b5c4c0c

Lambert

Hello. J-Sk

Unfortunately I am not aware of a replacement Ribbon. It is possible to use the medal without the bar in the Ribbon no problem, really is a very difficult bar to find

Good luck

Lambert

Souvenir inspired by the Italian VIC.

medaglia 84° reggimento fanteria Firenze

Lambert

Thank you so much Douglas ! 

Lambert

Hi Paul and Rich

Curious, I did not think about it!  a new way of collecting to me.

Thank you all

Lambert

anyone?

Hello gentlemen.,

Please could identify this item. What is it?

I await comments

Lambert

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Hello Paul,

Yes I agree. In the caption of the image, is called the Order of St. Benedict of Avis. and the image of the "Cross" (Portugal).

This is the Order (Brazilian).

So I believe that he has received the Portuguese Order (!?)

Lambert

Ordem de são bento de Aviz

Ordem de Cristo

Lambert

yes Paul

I can identify some awards.

Medal for the Surrender of Uruguayana (Medalha da Rendição de Uruguaiana), 1865

General Medal for the Paraguayan Campaign (Medalha Geral da Campanha do Paraguai), 1870, with ribbon bar

Medalha de campanha Uruguay 1852

Links very interesting and enlightening.

Thank Bill

Lambert

Photo fantastic! 

many medals !!

Lambert

I think there is no no shame in that, after all what is a restorative work piece .. Were it otherwise never tapestries of St. Petersburg Palace jamas could be recovered. I think you did right to preserve the beauty of the Order, I would do the same! . 

Unfortunately the Ribbon of my order was lost a long time, also seek a similar replacement. 

Lambert

This badge I do not know, but the text (in French) was widely used in the Great War Commemorative Medal Belgians.

Lambert

Hugh,

It's really hard to find, even in these conditions perfectly preserved and the Ribbon Original! It's wonderful to see this your baby ..It is a splendid set !! Worth every penny, definitely!

the Imperial Museum (Petropolis, Rio de Janeiro) there are some exposed specimens including the order used by Emperor Pedro II

Lambert

It seems strange after more than 90 years reissue of the British MV merely for commercial purposes.

Best

Lambert

Thanks, Paul and 922F. 

I agree it is beautiful!

This is the lowest class model, KNIGHT probably aimed at "Voluntários da Pátria" soldiers who fought in the Paraguayan War 1864-1870
I sought this Order for many years. it's not easy to find.

Lambert

These are pictures of my ..

Photos: Milton Basile

The order of the Rose was founded by the Emperor Dom Pedro I. on October 17, 1829, on occasion of his second marriage to Amalie Princess of Leuchtenberg. Dom Pedro I. who was besides his epileptic seizures a tough character and had several mistresses. This may be the reason why his first wife, Leopoldine of Austria, deceased rather young, not even 30 years old, in 1826. They had five children together, among them Maria Gloria, later Queen of Spain, and Dom Pedro, who would be Dom Pedro I. successor, called Dom Pedro II. After the death of Leopoldine of Austria, Dom Pedro I. went to Europe looking for a new wife. Due to his history and the influence of the Austrian chancellor Count Metternich a proper woman couldn't be obtained. Therefore his mistress, at this time still living at the Brazilian Court, was send away and negotiation with the Bavarian court Pedro got engaged to Amalie von Leuchtenberg, a daughter of the former Vice King of Italy, Eugen de Beauharnais. He was made the Duke of Leuchtenberg by his father in law King Maximilian von Bayern.Two days after the engagement, October 17, 1829, the Order of the Rose was founded. Some say the order was founded due to Pedro saying: "...beautiful as a rose", looking at Amalie. The other theory was the fact that Amalie liked the Rose's very much and he surprised her giving her a diamond set grand cross badge upon her arrival in Brazil. The last version should be the correct one.Fact is the precise planning of this order, proven by countless design drawings. The bear dates on them starting 4 weeks before she arrived in Brazil.
avers cavaleiro cross

The order was awarded in 6 different grades.

On April 6, 1831, Dom Pedro went into exile with his daughter Maria Gloria and his wife to Spain and gave his power to his underage son Dom Pedro, now Dom Pedro II. The 5 year old was substituted by a council until he turned 15 July 15, 1840. During 1831 and 1840 no order was awarded. Afterwards the order was awarded quite often, since Pedro had a strong connection to his mother. Therefore the Order of the Rose became the most important in Brazil. In addition to this the order was even more popular then the classical Brazilian orders, as the order of the Southern Cross, due to its pretty designs. The Grand Duke of Russia, how was listed for the Grand Cross of the higher Order of The Southern Cross, during a visit of Dom Pedro II. in Russia asked the Emperor of Brazil for the Order of the Rose after being given his Grand Cross set. Being asked for the reason, he answered that the Rose Order had the more elegant design. Needless to say, that he was given both orders.

After the revolution in 1889 the emperor of Brazil left his country. He diseased in Paris December 5, 1891.

The order of the Rose is still a very attractive decoration and quite rare. Looking at the number of awards it is quite clear, that certain classes are pretty difficult to obtain:

 The Grão Cruz efetivo was worn with a collar of 54.5 cm length.

There are a number of different manufactures for this order. The main manufacture was Kretly in Paris and Wolfers in Brussels. This made it difficult to determine the sizes of the different badges of the order. Mr. G. Tammann came up with the following measurements in [mm]:

Other manufactures are:

• da Costa, Lisbon

• Lemaitre, Paris

• Resse, Rio de Janeiro

• Rothe Vienna

Unfortunately there is no way of making the differentiation between the decorations awarded under Dom Pedro I. and Dom Pedro II. Even though the crown was different, the change was not shown in the design of the decoration. The only reliable basis is the French control mark law. French made pieces made during the regency of Dom Pedro I. show sometimes a ram (belier) mark if in gold and the hare (lievre) mark if in silver (gilt). During Pedro II's period the corresponding French marks are the eagle (aigle) and the boar (sanglier).

http://www.medalnet.net/brazil_rose.htm

Hi Bilco,

Good example with the box, I never saw that. Congratulations on your purchase ..

Lambert