Claudius

Great medal bar and ribbon bar set! 

I agree with you; I do believe the Lübeck rolls were constructed, but not published.  But surely the Lübeck rolls alone wouldn't be enough to identity this gent.  Are there rolls for one of his other awards he earned?  The 25-year TR Police Service or the Luftschutz medal?  (I'm not well apprised of TR era medal rolls.)

2 hours ago, Claudius said:

And what is that first ribbon suppose to be?  It has a conspicuous placement.

I would use a Blacklight on both sides of the bar. 

Not conclusive proof of genuine, but might provide immediate evidence.

And what is that first ribbon suppose to be?  It has a conspicuous placement.

It is nice to look at the Hessen Hochzeitserinnerungs medal.  Strange Austrian style mounting. 

Can you post some clearer photos of the medal obverse?  Maybe some close-ups.  Can I ask when you bought this medal?

I would like to see more photos of the medal bar too, please.  That's a real interesting piece.  The medals really got "chalky". 

@1812 Overture

Thank you for posting these photos from Tsingtau/Qingdau!   Wonderful photos!  There is a lot here to look over.

 I wish Rob Whittaker was still alive.  He would have loved looking at them.

Please post more when you have the opportunity.

6 hours ago, seeheld said:

I'm in doubt about this medal bar.

Better pictures from the China-Medal and the claps are needed.

Best regards

Seeheld

 

Agreed.  Please show some more photos!  The reverse and underneath.  And close-ups. 

That is a nice, NICE bar!  I wish I could hold it my hands to get a really good look at it.

Thank you for bringing this to this forum's attention.

I want to take some time to really look through this.

 

Medal bar:

• Eisernes Kreuz 2.Klasse
• Roter-Adlerorden 4.Klasse
• Kronenorden 3.Klasse
• Rote-Kreuz-Medaille 2.Klasse
• Dienstauszeichnungskreuz
• Rote-Kreuz-Medaille 3.Klasse
• Südwestafrika-Denkmünze in Stahl
• Kaiser-Wilhelm-Gedächtnismedaille (Centenarmedaille)
• Königlich Bayerischer Militär-Verdienstorden 3.Klasse mit Schwertern am Bande für Kriegsverdienst

• Herzoglich Sachsen-Ernestinischer Hausorden, Ritterkreuz 1.Klasse mit Jahreszahl 1914

• Herzoglich Anhaltisches Friedrichkreuz am grün-weißen Bande
• Großherzoglich Badischer Orden vom Zähringer Löwen, Ritterkreuz 1.Klasse
• Herzoglich Braunschweigischer Orden Heinrichs des Löwen, Ritterkreuz 2.Klasse

The shine on the medals is really high and it's hard to get good look at them in this photo.  However this photo appears to have been taken at about the same time period as the first photo in this thread.   Thanks to Dave's list of awards, we can extrapolate their identity in this photo (with just a slight difference in the ordering). 

In my opinion, that last medal is the Braunschweig Order of the Lion -2nd Klass

 

Hi Chris,

I think it is the Kreuz Treue dem Regiment.

Kind regards
Andreas

Yes indeed.  Great photo!  I wish we could the spange on the ribbon because it will have his unit. 

In the same way, it would be nice to read the three spange on the DSWA ribbon.   One is almost common.  Finding two is nice, but three is a real treat.

Magnificent bar Roman!

23 hours ago, Stuka f said:

hello,

it was just ID, by one of the members specialized in medals.

It must be Scottish and indeed most probably masonic related.

The coat of arms and the motto are those of the Dundas familly.

"Dundas Comte de Zetland - Ecosse - (Baronet, 16 nov. 1762; baron Dundas d'Aske, 13 août 1794; comte de Z., 2 juillet 1838) - D'argent au lion de gueules enclos dans un double trêcheur fleuronné et contre-fleuronné du même Cimier une tête de léopard de gueules couronnée à l'antique d'or brochant sur un bosquet de chêne de sinople englanté d'or Supports deux lions au naturel couronnés à l'antique d'or colletés chacun d'une couronne de chêne de sinople englantée d'or portant chacun suspendu au collier un écusson celui à dextre d'argent au chef-sautoir de gueules et le canton d'argent ch d'un lion de sable (Bruce) celui à senestre losangé d'argent et de gueules (Fitzwilliam) Devise ESSAYEZ"
Une médaille d'origine écossaise donc. D'autre blason de la famille DUNDAS presque similaire existent.Peut etre une loge maçonnique....

Capital work!

no idea.  It doesn't look official. 

I almost want to believe it is some kind of commemorative to the Marartha/Indian war and I keep staring at the letters on the scroll to say "Assaye"; but I only see "ESSAYXZ"   

Thank you Andreas.

Kind Regards,

Claudius

Is "L.R.G.V." a veteran's group?

15 hours ago, pep said:

not yet, claudius. I hope will be soon.

 

Great!  Post it again when you do.  Front and back.

I have seen the White Elephant on other medal bars and I think they are a really cool-looking award.  They are a delight to see on the end of a medal bar. 

Great job Komtur!

What a nice mini set.  The medal bar must be a really stunning one to look at as well.  I have always wondered what these officers did to receive the Siam award. 

Is this mini set yours pep?  Let me know if you find it's big brother medal bar (or ribbon bar).  I have space in my case for this one!

9 hours ago, Martin- said:

Hi all,

this is my first post here, so please be patient with me.

Recently on German Ebay many MVK1st class have popped up, all of which look repaired or restored. I would like to know your opinion on these pieces which sold for fairly low prices except for the one with crown. On of them was even sold twice, but the old auction from November can not be accessed anymore. 

I myself am very interested in the MVKs so I would like to post more questions and observations in the future. 

Hello Martin;

I am glad you can join us on this forum. 

In my opinion, if you are interested in buying MVKs, I would recommend a well-established dealer.  Their websites make it clear that they guarantee the authenticity, and will buying back something if it is shown to be a fake.  

I look forward to your future posts.

Outstanding!  It is a bit of a collecting outlier for me, but I really like these attributed u-boot medal bars and groups with the research for details.

Hello Morar;

This is indeed an ambitious endeavor but you seem to have some of the qualities necessary to bring it to fruition.  Namely, you knowledge of history, the countries, the players and their "tech" (machines of war).  And lastly you have the desire and determination to do this.  There may be dozens of us on this forum with the similar knowledge of WWI history and the weapons, but if you have the will and fortitude to push this project; that will make all the difference. 

In my opinion, you have an outline of the components of the game, the campaigns, the (Conquest) modes.  It appears that you need a team of gamer programmers, software architects, and CGI artists to envision an end product and then to map out a way to get to that vision.

There must be gamer programmers and software designers that would love to hear your idea.  I don't know where to find them, but maybe there are forums and websites that openly solicit these talents and ideas.

Good luck and don't forget about us if you are looking for awards to feature in your game.  I'm sure we can give you LOTS of ideas there!

-Claudius

17 minutes ago, peter monahan said:

Do you suppose Russian electronic 'warriors' are as nerdy as their Western counterparts?

Het!

21 minutes ago, Kriegsmarine Admiral said:

Thank you. So is it possible it was awarded for several months? Or should I say, is it possible that Hans Erler recieved it in April?

yes.

Hello KDVR;

These St. George medals and crosses really need to be examined in person.  The fakes work very hard to convince with markings designed to fool. 

In hand, it's easier to be measure, weigh and listen to the subject awards to check for veracity.  Yes, I said "listen".  The legit medals/crosses have a distinct sound. 

However, there are some members here who might venture a judgment on these awards without having them in their hands.

On ‎12‎/‎2‎/‎2017 at 19:53, cwdts said:

Hello guys, Cheston Davis here. New to the club/forum.. I was surfing the net and saw this Southwest Afrika/ colonial German page and was fascinated. I have in my collection which to me was a mysterious item that I picked up  over ten years ago. As per reading your discussions about a similar clasp to saxe-meiningen. I attaching a picture of it now. By what I gather from your conversations, it's a clasp for service in Afrika, but mine has no swords attached; so would this be for a non-combatant? Look forward to more information. 

Hello Cheston;

Welcome to GMIC!  Thanks for showing your clasp.  You correctly linked the "Afrika" clasp with the Sächsische Herzogtümer medal.  This medal also had a sword clasp for "China" service.  According to DOE (Deutsche Orden und Ehrenzeichen 1800-1945 by Nimmergut) both of these clasps came with swords.  There was no known "no sword" clasp version.

I have my doubts about your clasp, not just because there are no swords, but because the kerning is different from known examples.

Hello Dan;

It appears like you have something there that looks like the Turkish Order of Medjidie -5th class.  I say, "looks like" because I don't like this one.  However, there are others on this forum with a LOT more experience than me with these orders, and they may disagree.

There are better quality Medjidies that can be purchased for $300 -$500.  In the last two years there has been some downward price pressure on these awards.