Stogieman

The BMVM case is quite rare. I’ve only had one over the years, it was in an extensive group to a Bavarian baker I bought from Detlev years ago. It was a pretty nice group, everything was cased, documents and a huge stein from the Bavarian Baking Association. Since I’ve lost my photo archives I can’t share any images. If I remember correctly I paid about $1800 for the group. The Bravery Medal was silver and in excellent condition.

A little unusual that two empty cases would show up in such short order, hope that they are not being faked now!!

I would have to agree with Vince here

The Red Eagle was shown in my Traveling Circus Thread, there was some discussion there about the Kaiser’s ODM. 

With all due respects, I will disagree with these sources 

This bar on US eBay, asking is $850, looks good to me except the mounting precedence seems a little weird. Comments?

The seller in Germany who split up the last two AO I posted is now offering a later AO1, split from its’ case at $735 for the cross and $308 for the case! Silver gilt, marked cross and case for Scharffenburg 

Really atrocious PLM copy with fake WW2 swords and oak leaves attached, offered as “vintage” at $2125!!

That does seem like a really odd combination of awards!

A tough piece to find, too bad you don’t have the suspension loop and ribbon, but still a nice example 

Crown Order 2 relisted with a BIN of $1900, Red Eagle 4 relisted with a BIN of $610

People are simply crazy! The fake 1813 EK1 is currently up to $1630 and the fake PLM is up to $1195! I just don’t understand this nonsense. These pieces are clearly copies!

22 hours ago, Bernd_W said:

It was also awarded for military merit. 

Good Morning Bernd, I’m going to have to disagree with you on this, the St. Henry was a bravery award only. Military Merit was awarded the Albert Order or Merit Order without swords. Unless you can show me in the statutes otherwise.

Kind of a watered down award criteria given it was originally given for extreme bravery in war.

Final Bids on these copies:

”1870 EK1”: $754!

”1870 EK2” $937!

people are going to be seriously disappointed when they find out these were copies!! I don’t understand how you can even “collect “ without doing any research on your subject. It seems that there’s an awful lot of money changing hands here. The seller of these items has a never ending supply of them and that alone should have been a huge red flag for the buyers!

And again, same seller, 1870 EK2 with oak leaves and repeat spange. Current bid, $305

Same seller, fake 1813 EK1, currently at $341

Good Morning Tony, this is pretty interesting, looking forward to seeing more!

Another example from eBay.de, final bid 650-Euro 

Fake Wagner 1870 EK1, currently at $330

Hi Vince, I guess that’s possible, being sold in one of the post WW2 coffin cases

And another “PLM”, allegedly by Juncker, currently at $635!

Another fake S&W PLM sold for $531

Final bid on fake airship badge was $355

Nice little bar, thanks for sharing 

2 hours ago, VtwinVince said:

The price on the KO2 is in the ballpark, but what happened to the inside of the case lid?

I think that’s the ribbon