Spasm

Thanks for the welcome.

Are you sure it should be there? It seems to be more of a colonial content. This gear is from the Border Wars in Angola during the 70s

I'm happy to put the picture there if you are sure.

Stuff I dug out of my trommel. Just for you gents to have a look at.

AlecH

It looks pretty good to me for several reasons:

Fuess badges have 7 laurel leaves on each side rather than the 8 on Deschler badges

The lettering in the enamel looks good (even from the poor quality photos) the I almost comes to a point and the dash overlaps the L almost touching the S. I can't see the H well but it looks to have very thin uprights.

The pin plate has a rounded C rather than a "thin" upright version found on copies

Are there the two dots of the umlaut within the letter U of Munchen? (I can't quite see on the photo) - they should be there.

The only thing "wrong" that I can find is that the stamping on the pin plate is normally off centre - up and to the left - where this one looks spot on centred. Not a bad thing just something not seen on most gold badges by Fuess.

Overall I would say it's a good one

Best of luck

Spasm

Ooops, sorry, forgot to say the same markings apply for the NSKK daggers as well

Other than:

N - Nord (Hamburg)

O - Ost (Berlin)

S - Sud (Munich)

Mi - Mitte (Nuremburg)

So - Sodost (Vienna)

A - Alpenland

Bln - Berlin

Da - Danzig

Eg - Egerland

KS - Kempfalz/Saar

Le - Leipzig

MB - Mark Brandenburg

Od - Oberdonau

Wa - Warthegan

There may be some differences in the cross guards beginning with N and W on SA and NSKK daggers (No and Nm both as Nordmark, We and Wf both for Westfalen etc etc) but I'll let the experts put us right.

Spaz

Ooops, sorry, forgot to say the same markings apply for the NSKK daggers as well

Spaz

First ever post, so hope it comes out right:

There were 30 different territorial SA groups but only 23 of them marked the bottom cross guards (Gau markings) of their daggers. Only early daggers were group marked - late period RZM marked and mid period double marked (RZM and maker's mark) blade daggers were never "Gau marked". The markings are as follows:

BO - Bayerrische Ostmark

B - Berlin - Brandenburg

Fr - Franken

Ha - Hansa

He - Hessen

Ho - Hochland

Mi - Mitte

Nrh - Niederhein

Nm - Nordmark

No - Nordsee

Ns - Niedersachsen

Oe - Osterreich (before annection of Austria but some were involved with the SA)

Om - Ostmark

Ost - Ostland

P - Pommern

Sa - Sachsen

SA - Sachsen (note capital A on some daggers)

S - Schlesien

Sw - Sudwest

Th - Thuringen

W - Feldherrnhalle (interesting one to look up this, I'll leave that to you)

Wf - Westfalen

Wm - Westmark

The other 7 areas were Alpenland (A), Donau (Do), Kurpfalz (Kp), Sudeten (Su), Sudmark (Sm), Weisel (We) and Wartha (Wa). None of these areas were marked on the daggers as they didn't exist until they were annexed to Germany, by then the marking of the cross guards were dropped.

There are maps available to show where all the above areas were and are vaialble on some websites about daggers - go have a look around.

Be careful, these daggers drag you in as holding one is history itself in an amazing object. And all for 7.5 Marks when they were new.

Cheers - Spaz