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On 12/01/2023 at 17:09, SAXONY said:

he seems to be making good money from it

 

https://www.ebay.de/sch/i.html?item=314309101380&rt=nc&_ssn=chrisnico2022&LH_Sold=1&LH_Complete=1

I believe that most of these items aren't actually sold. The bids are fake. If you see "Angebot mit nicht öffentlicher Bieter-/Käuferliste" in the bidder list, I'm pretty sure it means the bidding is being artificially done. You only ever see this phrase on the listings of the sellers who are selling these fakes.

In particular, the Freikorps fakes shown have completely taken over the Freikorps listings to the point that there are seldom, if ever any real Freikorps badges and awards anymore.

2 hours ago, ostprussenmann_new said:

These are all scary good.

These are all scary good.

These are all scary good.

Well, yes. But, if you know what to look for, the illusion falls apart.

I do note that the latest addition to many of the pin-back crosses is a very unconvincing, over-sized Meybauer mark not to mention the Wagner mark on the back of the tank badge is a joke. But, still, these continue to fool less experienced collectors. To make matters worse, these are sold not just by the same seller with multiple accounts, but by other crooks as well, such as Marc Poredda (Porre81, kruemmelmix) who has a fondness for the over-use of chemical aging and somber black backgrounds.

Perhaps post it in the correct forum (Germany: Third Reich: Uniforms, Headwear, Insignia & Equipment).

This the Imperial German forum.

The Silesian Eagle is real. But, I don't like the Elephant Orden.

13 hours ago, drspeck said:

Currently on ebay

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

This Randow Cross was made by Alexander Chickolov as a collector's copy. While he never set out to deceive with his various creations, they have been bought by unscrupulous dealers and have now entered the general market as supposed originals. All his copies are marked with the same bogus Russian hallmark and the number 595.

14 hours ago, VtwinVince said:

True, but he's also wearing a Kyffhaeuser-Medaille on his Schnalle, so I would date this photo to around 1933.

This is true. But, there are lots of cases where the regulations were ignored and active service personnel continued to wear banned semi-official and Freikorps awards well after 1935.

I also believe the last medal is the Hungarian War Commemorative Medal.

8 hours ago, VtwinVince said:

Hamburg Feld-Ehrenzeichen?

Banned for wear from 1935 on.

16 hours ago, Simius Rex said:

 

As I mentioned above, the seller Keteheimdall is one of the Schrägstich Faker's eBay user names.  Several fake bars have already been sold and are currently being sold. 

 

Current Auctions:  https://www.ebay.de/sch/kelteheimdall/m.html?item=125586074240&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.m3561.l2562

 

Past Auctions:  https://www.ebay.de/sch/kelteheimdall/m.html?item=125586074240&LH_Complete=1&rt=nc&_trksid=p2046732.m1684

I don't believe these groups are actually sold most of the time. These auctions often have a bidding history marked by the phrase "Angebot mit nicht öffentlicher Bieter-/Käuferliste" (Offer with non-public bidder / buyer list) which I think indicates that the seller has a shill bidder acting on his behalf in an attempt to get some interest. This is why the same groups often show up again and again for sale hoping that eventually some sucker will enter a genuine bid and buy them.

16 hours ago, Simius Rex said:

 

 

 

 

 

8 hours ago, xxx said:

you have probably seen this on ebay, before the pics are lost will safe it here

 

 

Fake group. The Silesian Eagle, the Iron Division Medal and the SSVK medal are all fake. The Lippe Merit Cross is likely fake as well.

Based on the fact that he's wearing the 3. Marine-Brigade Loewenfeld Commemorative Cross I class, he must have been in this Freikorps after the war.

These are some pages from a forthcoming book on Freikorps aviation to which I have made some contributions and which should come out sometime next year.

Freikorps Air Forces

I have been assembling images of known Freikorps Volunteer Fighter Squadron insignia. FFA418 was commanded by Oberleutnant Oskar von Boenigk and was part of Grenzschutz Ost serving in upper Silesia until October 1919.
FFA424, FFA426, Eiserne FA427 and Art.-Flieger-Staffel 101 were part of Kampfgeschwader Sachsenberg and fought until December 1919 in the Baltic campaign, first with the Iron Division and Deutsche Legion and finally with Bermondt-Avalov's Russian West Army.

Here is the insignia I have identified so far. With the exception of FFA418, all of these were sleeve badges worn on the upper left sleeve. Eiserne-Flieger-Abteilung 427 and Artillerie-Flieger-Staffel 101 (from my collection) were co-designations of the same unit in the Iron Division. It was the main flying unit used in the attack on Riga in May 1919.

The photo shows a member of Kampfgeschwader Sachsenberg wearing the unit badge above the MGSS badge.

A WWI/Freikorps medal bar with the  Baden zinc "Verdienst" medal and the scarce Merit Cross II class of the III Marine-Brigade von Löwenfeld.

Here's one from eMedals.

https://www.emedals.com/spain-an-order-of-the-knights-hospitaller-of-st-john-breast-star-c-1870-by-godet-99882

Spanish Order of the Knights Hospitaller of St.John, Breast Star, late 19th century. These were almost always German-made and usually by Godet.

very nice piece.

This awards has been discussed before on several forums including this one.

Russian Westarmee headquarters standard showing the design of the award.

Here is the service cross for the Russian Westarmee from my collection on which the order was later based.

Das Abzeichen für Dienstgrade der russische Westarmee (Badge for All Ranks of the Russian Western Army)

I agree with VtwinVince. Originals of these are extremely rare. Chances of finding an original are very slim.

eBay and some dealer sites are flooded with fakes in different class of this decoration.

I only know of a couple of advanced collectors who have originals.

Here is one of the few known originals.

A nice G.A. Scharffenberg, Dresden Albrechtssorden 2X.

While it may be on eBay, it's being sold by Kai Winkler. That should be all you need to know to run in the opposite direction.

12 hours ago, Claudio said:

(Sütterlin Surname beginning with H but I can't read it)

It's not Sütterlin, but Kurrentschrift. Although introduced in Prussia in 1915, Sütterlin didn't come into general usage until the 1930s, being made the official style of handwriting taught in schools from 1935 onwards.

12 hours ago, Claudio said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Schutztruppen-Regiment von Lettow of Freiwilligen-Division von Lettow-Vorbeck Arm-badge

Freiwilligen-Division von Lettow-Vorbeck took part in the putting down of the Spartacist uprising in Berlin and later against the Sozialistischen Republik Bremen proclaimed January 1919 and in June 1919 against the workers strike in Hamburg.

This is a purported later strike after the die was believed damaged or worn in the top part. The badge design of a large lion head superimposed on two crossed Zulu Iklwa on a Zulu shield is complex and so deep, heavily embossed and vaulted, that the die was either damaged or just worn at the top over time. Thus in earlier strikes the vertical and horizontal lines decorating the bottom of the shield repeated at the top. Details seem to have been partially worn down on the die through repeated striking of the badges. The left hand side has a die flaw at the edge on the curvy line inside the rim and the left hand spear head is missing some of the details of that on the right.

While not scarce, it is very hard to find as it's one of the most sought after Freikorps badges. So far, reproductions/fakes of this badge have not been produced probably because it would be somewhat difficult to do so convincingly.

IMO it's a genuine late WWII production. It has the tell-tale die flaw on the front of the bow across the top. When new, these had a bright, matte silver (Mattweiß) finish. This one seems to retain a good portion of it, albeit toned. Typically, the zinc 'eats' the silver finish.

20 minutes ago, Bob said:

There are no more entries past page 11 unfortunately. I posted all the pages with written entries on them. They're not easy to read which is unfortunate as there's quite a bit of personal / military career detail there.

I read the entries and he left the service on April 7 1919 two days before the regiment formed Freikorps Würzburg and left for Munich to fight the communists. He had been wounded. So, maybe he wasn't up to it or had had enough. He was marked with good conduct and he received his 50 Marks discharge pay.

Are there any entries past page 11? I'm curious if he served in Freikorps Würzburg which was formed from Bavarian Reserve Jäger Regiment 15 when it returned to Germany from Georgia in 1919.