Jacky

And???

You happen to have the medals of this man??

Kind regards,

Jacky

Nice bar,

However the description says that the finnish medal is the 3rd class???

Kind regards,

Jacky

I think I know the last ribbon,

it could be a Imtiyaz Medal.

It's a turkish medal for bravery / merit....

Will have to look for a picture

---> turkish medals

ribbon

This last picture shows what the ribbon would like, and that's what your ribbon shows.

Kind regards,

Jacky

Dear Greg,

in case you read german you will find this interesting:

Red Eagle Order Medal

and:

Crown Order Medal

Enjoy

Very nice articles,

However when looking at the article about the red eagle medal, I saw a spange with all orders ripped away except the red eagle medal....

Now I have 2 questions...

- was it possible to earn the medal and thereafter the knights grade etc ? Could one then wear both the medal and the uppergrades??? I thought, as long as it's not awarded with swords, one has to send the lower grades back? So if one becomes a knight 1st class, the knight 2nd class had to be returned??

- what medals/orders are missing on the spange???

Thanks in advance,

Kind regards,

Jacky

Wonderfull story,

I'm very impressed!!

Forgive me if this is a delicate question,

but I'm wondering why he had been sent to a death-camp??

Kind regards,

Jacky

Well, I don't think that this is necessarily their fault,

if I'm correct, this is an aution?? Then it's just what one wants to give for the pieces....

But yes, It's really a sin that they're splitting groups etc.

But it's just mainly greed, often it's easier to have two collectors bidding against each other for an

item which belongs to their niche than getting 2 collectors trying to outbid each other on the whole lot as

the price of the lot is higher to overcome for a collector.

It's just a shame

However, I can't read what kind of medals he should have had according to the paper,

Could someone translate it for me???

Kind regards,

Jacky

Hi Haynau, Wonderfull bar,

Would love to know more about this history..

How ever, about the russian medal and it's ribbon, did you know that different ribbons had a different meaning for the medal for zeal?? Some were on the St Anne ribbon etc etc to denote bravery etc

As I don't collect russian, it's just my 2 cents worth and needs review from a more experted member.

Kind regards,

Jacky

Hi Robert, Nice picture, with a black wound badge too.

I have seen those badges before!!!

The deer with the cross between it's antlers comes from the legend of Saint Hubertus, who is now a patron Saint of the hunt.

so a kind of membership badge of a Hunting-club?

But I know also of a very special badge, designed by the emperor and awarded only to his hunting-compagnons, also royals. As I once readed that the king of the Netherlands had been awarded one, I have stored this fact somewhere in my mind. But as it was mainly to royals, I don't think it's this badge.....

Gents,

Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong!

Kind regards,

Jacky

ooooh I knew that order,

The three star order of virginity of the sahara,

very very rare,

as there are hardly any virgins in the desert!!!

No, just joking, couldn't find it on Internet, maybe are there any clues on the back??

Kind regards,

Jacky

HUmmmmm,

Depends on what the "obscure" african order was....

Any pictures of the stuff where you swapped it for???

Kind regards,

Jacky

Nice awards,

what were they awarded for??

Kind regards.

indeed, that one with the swords is about 1880-1900 and I guess that the other is around 1930-1940.

How can one see which period a star belongs to??

Kind regards,

Jacky

Wonderfull,

When used patiently and correct nothing wrong with this method, as long as it isn't meant to remove original paint. In this case, it was used for ugly painting, so no probs with it.

Just love the award!

Also the grandofficers star mentioned above here.

Kind regards

Jacky

Nice award and doc.

If I'm correct, this is the somewhat officers class of the order of Merit.

Very nice award!!

Kind regards,

Jacky

Nice picture...

But what do I see??

The one on the left;

French Croix d'Guerre

39-45 star

France & Germany star

Warmedal

Defence medal

perhaps the one in front of the 39 45 star looks like an american humanitarian medal????

Kind regards,

Jacky

P.s Keep the pictures coming

Nice one, You have got the group??

How do you know that this cross belonged to a belgian soldier??

Kind regards,

jacky

wunderbar, as the decorandee should have said when he sees this bar!!

Sounds better and better all the time.

Kind regards,

Jacky

hummmm....

Could they be..... Your ancestor's PLM's oakleaves??

General von Etzel??

Isn't post WW2 a copy?? (or just to say FAKE?)

I thought that after WW1 PLM's weren't produced anymore, officially....

Kind regards,

Jacky

Unknown as I'm...

Perhaps the oakleaves to a Pour le Merite?

Kind regards,

Jacky

But the pro's are there too!!!

The soldiers don't have to suffer anymore from wrong pinned medals!!

If I'm correct Queen Victoria once pinned the Victoria cross into the man's breast......

The poor man didn't flinch.....

Nowadays we would prosecute those nasty breastpinners, so easier, painless and cheaper

Kind regards,

Jacky

to my feeling, the medal on the left is a kind of victory medal, names of other countries are mentioned on the leaves of the laurel-crown.

Just my 2 cents...

Kind regards,

Jacky

wow, again I'm astonished!!

The true service medal on post 43 is even numbered!!

Any chance to research it??

Keep going!

Kind regards

Jacky

You're right eric...

I'm so sorry, feel sooooo bad about this mistake

Well let's look at the data for the ribbons

Cross of honour of the house order of ORANGE 1969 - x

Medal for order and Peace 1945 - 1951

Officers long service cross. since 1951 the roman numbers are used on the batons.

Medal for the inauguration of queen Beatrix 1980

I think that Eric is right, as often with the dutch medals.

The connection with luxembourg (order of Adolph) makes the court-connection likely, as with the cross of honour.

If I may quote you eric??

"Dutch citizens have to earn the lowest grade of the house order first, before earning the next highest."

So this man must have earned the three lowest grades if this had been awarded before the reorganisation of the house order in 1969.

But afterwards, this became the lowest grade..... Looking at the data, I think this had been awarded after the reorganisation.

The decorandee of the medal for the inauguration of Beatrix are known to the chancellery, the cross of honour must be know to the chancellery of the house order, please feel free to correct me Eric.

The order of Adolph of Nassau must also be known as the permission to wear it had to be obtained from the departement of defence??

remains the problem of privancy.......

Kind regards,

Jacky