Jacky

?nd I have to say that the st Anne ribbons are quite oftener found on naval bars than on land-bars....

Which might be another hint for the naval-theme of this bar.

And also, I meant to have readed somewhere and somehow that the russians also had a ribbon as a sign of merit instead of a "complete" medal.

Might be the same as the "unit citations" which are common with the Americans, also just a piece of ribbon and not a "complete" medal.

But I might also be completely off-road.

Just found this goodie.

Hi Ed,

it appears to be a badge for a "Fahrlehrer" driving instructor

Considering the appearance of this badge, a driving instructor for tanks

Kind regards,

Jacky

Jacky the document states the award was to FRAU DIREKTOP thats Lady Director so its to a civilian, for good work in the service of Austria, so maybe its for political / Civil services rendered to the state, and not connected to the military.

Kevin in Deva.

A bit late reaction, but what I meant with Officers class is the international nomen-clatuur of decorations.

Just:

Grand cross

Grand Commander/Grand officer etc

Commander

Officer

Knight

Member

affilated medals

I meant this officer, the grade between commander ?nd knight

Not the militairy officer...

Kind regards,

Jacky

the ribbon for the cross of mercy is bleu-ish

but this ribbon is green.

Concerning the ribbon of the order of st Anna, there was also a medal of Zeal, which had been awarded quite extensive! The ribbon denoted the rank of the receipment, soldiers would receive this medal on the ribbon of a lower order than NCO's.

A medal of zeal is quite possible...

Kind regards,

Jacky

the last two seems russian to me, which could be true for the second last ribbon....

Kind regards,

Jacky

It's a nice decoration,

I like the crown.

If there would be any possibility to have a separate crown, just able to mount on anything you like,

I would have bought them

I don't think it could be a trial model or an unfinished model as the arms are smooth,

there is no gap to fill the enamel in.....

Andreas has written about this order on his site!

It's very complete and nicely written!

Brunswick Order

Brunswick order with swords

Kind regards,

Jacky

p.s. nice pictures of your order!

This one differs from andrea's pictures...

This is a knight 2nd class.

But the non enamelled reverse is something which I can't explain....

Could this be possible that this is a private purchase??

He even "cares" about the group being split up...

"bitte beachten Sie auch die anderen Orden und Urkunden des Major Becker"

He asks the viewers to look also at the other orders and certificates of the major......

If he really cared about it, he would have listed it as one group!

What is the grandcross on the ribbonbar placed before the marianerkreuz?

Kind regards,

Jacky

Hi Igor,

On eric's website is a nice picture of a militairy mounted example,

sadly enough only in dutch,

But I will post a link for you.

You will find the image there.

Kind regards,

Jacky

well,

all I can tell you is that ex voto is latin for "as promised"

This means that a christian offers the church something as a way to say thank you to the Lord for having helped him.

This present isn't necessarily valuable, it might even be a doll from a woman who had struggled for many years with

her inability to get pregnant and at last got pregnant, then she would give the church a doll as way to say thank you for my baby.

In this case the ex voto is clearly pictured with the black madonna, and the year 1814....

What then happened? You should as Ed as he's teaching history;)

The last explanation says that "by advocacy of our lady of mercy, our house had been spared from the bullets/grenades"

This explains why the pictures have been given to the church, quid pro quo, just to reward the lady for her help

Kind regards,

Jacky

But then...

How comes the merit cross with the star??

Someone might have put them together and said whow, that's nice....

It remains still a little shady why the cross is together with the star.

Might it be possible that a german NCO had taken his own cross and pinned/given it to the private??

Kind regards,

Jacky

Even the second type is really magnificient, with the very pronouncable beard and mustache!!!

Many of us might wish to have such a wonderfull and very well trimmed beard

But the size is really sorry, saving one's life might have saved a world,

and all one gets is just a plain small medal.... Well it's the thought beyond it.

And one doesn't save a life to get a medal.

Wonderfull pictures & missions..

An aquintance of mine also went there,

you might have met him as I thought that the Aussies and the Dutchies shared the same camp....

Wasn't it "Camp Holland"?

Kind regards,

Jacky

Your right Jack, you are allowed a mistake

its the 1914-15 Star.

Kevin in Deva

hehe, thank you,

I did a little search and found only images when I searched for the 1914 star...

But, out of memory, the 1914 star was often with a bar, wasn't it??

Kind regards and always willing to hear your corrections

Jacky

as a commonwealth native, you should know that!

As a dutchie, I'm allowed to make mistakes:P

it's the 1914 star!

kind regards,

Jacky

Sounds good!

Please keep us informed!

Fabulous!!

Bavarian merit cross with swords & crown, quite a high decoration for a "simple" private, even a POW!!

But his group isn't as extensive as I thought.

No War medal and/or Victory medal...

I thought that those were also awarded to POWs??

Or just forgotten him, perhaps due to the german decoration?

He appears to have a collection with a good number of decorations

That would indeed be a quite strange group!

Possibly having the 1914-1918 star with British warmedal and victory medal with the Bavarian Militair cross of merit 3rd class (with or without swords?)

Greetzz

Jacky

Wonderfull pictures and medal group!

Both of your uncle as well as your grandfather.

I wonder whether you're going to gain all the family's medalgroups/medals?

How many of their generation have served and collected their gongs?

Kind regards,

Jacky

Nice one!!

Another belgian "subject" under your reign, laurence

To me, it looks quite modern, due to the quite flat shapes etc.

Could you give me perhaps a side-shot?

Kind regards,

Jacky

The "friedrich august"-text is the reverse of the medal.

The monogram FR is the front of the medal.

Concerning the 15 years service cross, the crown is shown on the front and the XV on the reverse.

kind regards,

Jacky

Hello Brian,

Yes they're both the correct ribbon.

Concerning your questions, perhaps could you better post all your questions in 1 thread instead of creating different threads for all your individual or pairswise medals.

Kind regards,

Jacky

Humm beaten within 1 minute by kevin, but as long as it's being beaten by him.... I don't mind