Hoss

Eric

Thanks Chip, could the stamps also be B.I.A.X. or I.B.A.X within a square cartouche, or no? As a side line I've tried before to find how many Corps had repair shop locals but its difficult. I have to do me searches in German which, to me looks like Chinese!

Eric

Chris forget what I say in my initial post, I was full of crap. I just remembered a killer W1 belt full of danglies sold to me chum. The left one as Mr Chips say's is of course ok, problem with those they must have been stamped out right through into TR period as well. Still don't like the right one though, so now I'm two for three lol!

I'll contact him for some pics, been busy and haven't talked in a while etc.

Eric

Chip

Very hard to make out the maker on the shoulder straps its something like L. Regenspurgernacht ? the town is quite clear Mannheim 1915 & B.A.X 1915 stamped. Yes thanks I saw the one in Kraus,

Chip what are the B.A. repair shops called in German and maybe a stamp example, I had it on the net the other night then lost it.

Eric

The middle one could have been used on reflection, if the hardware is from an early bread bag, its the best of the three imo.

Eric

W1 German sack, the straps are dated tornistor with the correct hardware, quick release right shoulder. Almost identical style was still being used 1950's by the Swiss Army, which I found at a US Army Surplus store once, used it for years, camping, gigs,etc. note the haube cover fabric.

Eric

Imperial brass mounted (I sold my dated steel job to a fellow collector) and an commercially available example, other they used loose canteens clips, boot laces and key ring loops.

Eric

None are Imperial German issue imo, sorry.

Eric

I don't get the Pioneer thing either, everyone used them. Old rucksacks are all based from the latter half of the 19th century when many more Victorians had time to enjoy the great outdoors. The trick, if there is one is judging the fabric the German Army favoured, and stamps as Chip points out, most are simply commercial available to anyone. Ten euros can't be bad Chris.

I just had a thought,,bell goes off! (I blame the multivitamin I took the morning!) how about a 'Snagged for under 50-100 bucks' thread? Even stuff we may have let go and been disappointed in the outcome. It would help new collectors gauge prices etc, a comfortable spending guide, any item,,,,and shake off some collecting hobby cobwebs.

Just a thought

Eric

Well

I put my rig on consignment all I'll say is everyone is entitled to an opinion and its been examined by gents with almost 40yrs experience. And no, it will probably not match many issue ones the helmet one day maybe the key,,, after I'm dead lol!

This ebay item is certainly a fake reminds me of ones I saw as a teenager a long time ago in a land far away.........

Eric

Dante on books I always check out authors,he appears an authority Jesus what a career if its the same person. I see he spent time in Cheshire, can't be bad as long he isn't a Man City supporter.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Stone_(military_historian)

Eric

mail order Imperial style lol! actually if you swipe the company name & address you can read the whole newspaper in a German archive, its pretty cool.

Eric

Kriegsringe ad from a German 1918 newspaper.

Eric

I liked this one and kept images which now I can delete, never owned one too expensive for me and too many copies out there.

Eric

Mike

That is really cool, it looks to be a British .303 round to me the German '05 Spitzgeschoss has a tapered base.

Eric

Chip

courtesy of the French forum (I hope I don't get in trouble borrowing the picture), a relic bottom I may have seen something in a colour lithrograph image pre 1900 but don't remember completely, on a gun crew wearing zelt's ala bandoleer.

Eric

Gents

Does anyone have period images of covers with leather grommets they'd be willing to share, other than Austrian? 

Eric

Auss

Captain was Walther Schwieger, thanks on Ballard,,, big fan and I'll check it out when I have time.

Cheers

Who was the pilot Chris? My guess is the enthusiast added the boards, the buttons look to be for a mantel which may be replicas, the tunic's been worked on imo.

Eric

I spent two evenings on it then gave up my brain hurt too! its difficult to find facts. Apparently the log of U-20 states they only fired one of their three remaining torpedoes, backed up by radio to Germany and later the crew. The second explosion was different, more powerful rocked the submarine which may suggest it was internal sending shock waves back towards the submerged vessel, a thought?

What I did find surprising how shallow the water was where she sank, her wartime painted colours changed again to civil Cunard, the cargo manifest and parents taking children into a war zone. The medal/coin whatever not having official backing made by Goetz (I believe there is an original at the IWM but haven't visited in over 10yrs) and how much skill is involved being Captain of a large liner.

> in the zone He had ordered all lifeboats under davits hung out, all bulkhead doors closed except as were required to work the ship, portholes were closed. The lookout on the ship was doubled two in the crows nest. Two officers were on the bridge and a quartermaster on either side with instructions to look out for submarines, also the engine room was ordered to keep steam pressure high in case of emergency by telephone from the bridge.

8 am morning of the 7th voyage speed was reduced from 21 to 18 knots to arrive at the bar outside Liverpool 4 am on the 8th to allow the tide to take her into the Mersey. A sea fog came up shortly after the speed reduction a further alteration was required to 15 knots At noon speed was put at 18 knots at which time land was sighted aft the beam (two points) the Captain took to be Brow Head: unable to identify with certainty he kept the ship on her course S 87 E about parallel with the land until 12.40 pm, when, in order to make a better landing he altered course to N 67 E. This brought him closer to land and sighted the Old Head of Kinsale. He then ( 1.40 pm) altered his course back to S 87 E, steadied the ship on course and at (1.50 pm) began to take a four point bearing.

At 2 pm the passengers were finishing their mid day meal. At 2.10 pm when 10 to 15 miles off the Old Head of Kinsale, the Captain who was on the port side of the lower bridge, heard the call. "There is a torpedo coming Sir" given by the second Officer. <

Eric

Wonderful thanks Gordon

Eric

Dunno I just thought it was an interesting question in passing, bit of a depressing subject but I remember in that very good movie Breaker Morant, they were shot sitting down. Maybe its some sort of British military thing, no post they has to be a chair, something like that. Try looking up period regulations, you know I always thought it weird this 'one man would have a blank cartridge' he must have known, there is a big difference between shooting live and blank.

Eric

Shot sitting because they were incapable of standing up, the two you mention must have been previously wounded. James Connolly check 'Kilmainham Tales-1916'.

Eric

Military Rozzers, "Officer I'm just going to the corner shop for milk and smokes, neat helmet". lol!

Eric

Thanks Chip my other set didn't have the pegs I added the bag.

Eric