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    ErikMuller

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    1. OOOps posted same time as Marcus. I guess what you say .. the medal institution date of 1944 doesnt really mean that the awards were necessarily WW2 related. It may also determine why award was 1979 ... in this case maybe this guy did something related to these areas you quote in the late 1970's??

      1944 was the date dat the Polish Peoples Republic was founded. Its communist regime reinstituted the award as being an award of their own.

    2. Erik,

      Many thanks, that makes pefect sense. :beer:

      Dolf

      Funny thing is that there also was a Dutch prince which was called Henry the Navigator.

      He was Prince William Frederick HENRY, born at Soestdijk on 13 June, 1820 and died at Walferdange, Luxembourg, on 13 January, 1879.

      He enlisted in the Royal Netherlands Navy on 13 June, 1830 (only 10 years old) and was promoted the only Admiral of the Fleet the Dutch navy ever had, on 7 January, 1879, only five days before his death.

      Appearantly that was why the Dutch Navy was present with 3 ships (an aircraft carrier, a frigate and a submarine) at the commemoration. Strangely the submarine captain (Lieutenant-Commander Juta) only received the medal, where his 'larger' companions received both the medal and the order.

    3. Thanks for the confirmation.

      That obviously justifies why he got those German WWII TR awards, the funny thing is why he also got post WWII Portuguese awards! Specially that one which is more a civilian than a military award! :unsure:

      Dolf

      Appearantly there was a fleet review (sorry if my English translation is wrong, in Dutch its a "vlootschouw") to commemorate the 500th anniversary of the death of Henry the Navigator in September, 1960.

      A lot of non-portugese naval vessels took part in it. Among it were Dutch and German vessels. I have found a couple of Dutch naval officers which received the medal and a couple of Dutch captains which received either a grand officer or a commander in the order (and the medal).

    4. Will ask for the name of this major...

      Could you pm me the adress to who I can send the information??

      Kind regards

      Jacky

      p.s Your site is absolutely great, I have looked up a lot of things there. :P

      Keep going with the good work :beer:

      Thanks! I'm trying to update as much as I can, but time is a dangerously limited factor.

      And I still have to write English pages to, to make it accessible to non-Dutch visitors.

    5. Dear Erik,

      Sadly enough not yet.

      no name is known to me.

      I just got the pictures from a aquintance of me.

      Kind regards

      Jacky.

      P.s is that site yours??

      Great site innit !!!

      A shame, would have loved to dig into that! A former-member of the Dutch Orders and Medals Research Society (SRO) is currently writing a list of Dutchmen who received Belgian awards and I'm still looking for picture material to assist him.

      Yes the site is mine, being inspired by Hendrik's website a couple of years ago!

    6. On request of Rick Research:

      Ereteken voor Belangrijke Krijgsbedrijven

      By Royal Decree no. 123 of 31 May, 1833 Prince William of Orange (later to be King William II) proposed the institution of a General Service Decoration. However, it took 36 years before this award was actually created. By Royal Decree no. 13 of 19 February, 1869 the Cross for Important Military Operations was instituted.

      It was to be awarded to those who had participated in major military operations (the so-called expeditions; because of this the cross is also known as the Expedition Cross) and to those that had committed an act of gallantry while in military service. The cross should always have at least one clasp attached to the ribbon. An exception to this rule is when the cross was awarded for gallantry, in which case there should be a Crown for the Honourable Mention or two crossed swords (for the Sword of Honour) attached to the ribbon. It is, however, unlikely that the recipient of such gallantry awards didn't receive clasps to his Cross.

      It is a four-armed silver-coloured cross, 39 mm in diameter. The obverse has a portret King William III in a round badge, surrounded by a garter with the legend "VOOR KRIJGSVERRIGTINGEN" (for military operations) and a wreath of oak leaves. On all four the arms is a stylised "W" (for William).

      The reverse is plain.

      The ribbon is light green with yellowish orange borders. Silver clasps (42x9 mm) are worn over the ribbon.

      At institution 6 clasps were approved for military operations dating back to 1846. In the years afterwards 27 other clasps came to being. The last one for Timor in 1942, making it a total of 33 clasps:

      "Bali 1846"

      "Bali 1848"

      "Bali 1849"

      "Borneo 1850-1854"

      "Boni 1859"

      "Borneo 1859-1863"

      "Guinea 1869-1870"

      "Deli 1872"

      "Atjeh 1873-1874"

      "Atjeh 1873-1876"

      "Samalangan 1877"

      "Atjeh 1873-1880"

      "Atjeh 1873-1885"

      "Atjeh 1873-1890"

      "Tamiang 1893"

      "Atjeh 1873-1896"

      "Atjeh 1896-1900"

      "Korintji 1903"

      "Djambi 1901-1904"

      "Gaj? en Alaslanden 1904"

      "Atjeh 1901-1905"

      "Midden-Sumatra 1903-1907"

      "Zuid-Celebes 1905-1908"

      "Flores 1907-1908"

      "Kleine Soenda-eilanden 1905-1909"

      "Atjeh 1906-1910"

      "Nieuw-Guinea 1907-1915"

      "Atjeh 1911-1914"

      "W.Afd. Borneo 1912-1914"

      "N. Guinea 1907-1915"

      "Ceram 1915"

      "W-Kust Atjeh 1925-1927"

      "Timor 1942"

    7. It is about 6 trucs full of paper

      Big trucks, small trucks? How many metres? Looks like fun to make an inventory for :)

      For all this an inventory has to be made, it is a titan work, in the documentation center only 2 persons works on a little resarch, normaly when you are going there you have to do the research yourself.

      Making an inventory always is a terrible job. In this case I think that it just doesn't have any priority. It is remarkeble that Jan has access to this lot of paper yet. In the Netherlands it would be unheard of that someone gains access to an uninventorised archive! Even for me as an keeper of records it is inpossible!

      @vatjan

      I smell an SKF-article here Jan! ;)

    8. The limit per post for new people is 50K, that's why your 80s won't fit.

      This is a good place, based on the scans above, for a couple of questions I've always had:

      Why are modern Dutch awards SEWN to the front of ribbons, without any suspension ring? This seems a guarantee for awards to pull off and get lost! And what is with the bizarre inward facing "popsicle stick" prongs for miraculously attaching individual (???) medals to clothing by giant German style loops? This "squueeze and wrinkle" attachment system doesn't seem very logical-- especially if a ROW of awards are hanging together all mounted individually (???).

      I once had quite a few of the old Expedition Crosses with pre-1914 bars (marvelous, evocative place names from the Netherlands Indies) and they hung on the ribbons in the way every other country's awards do, and had (as I recall, yes, it WAS that long ago) safety pin type fasteners on back.

      Dear Rick,

      The Prussian mounting style is in use since 1913. It protects the medals from rubbing against each other and also prevents from sticking all kinds of medals on a military uniform (you are only allowed to wear one row only, with a maximum of 16 medals). The 'old style' hanging from the ribbon is only used for civil uniforms and miniatures nowadays. Medals are by the way never mounted individually, but always as a group.

      The only two medals which don't have a suspension ring are the War Commemorative Cross and the Decoration for Order and Peace and because they are sewn onto the ribbon, they are actually the only two medals which don't get lost easily. Suspension rings have a nasty habbit of breaking!

    9. Hi Ed,

      As far as I'm concerned, there are no stupid questions ... only stupid answers ! ;)

      As the decoration was created while the Dutch government was in exile in London, two local manufacturers originally produced it :

      John Robert Gaunt, with "Sterling" on the reverse and

      Spink & Son, with "Silver" on the reverse.

      Some time after the liberation of the Netherlands the Dutch Mint in Utrecht started producing these crosses with a completely blank reverse.

      The 'Dutch strike' has a blank reverse yes, but it also has a small makers mark (a staff of Mercury) on the left rim.

      Appearantly the two crosses, which were awarded in 2002 to a Dutch and an American Air Force pilot were of the old Gaunt type, which were cleaned and lacquered to keep them clean in the future.

    10. Hi Hendrik,

      The NOORD AFRIKA - ITALI? 1941-1942 bar was never actually made. The first crosses were awarded mid 1948 and recipients of the 1944 "temporary award" only received their temporary brevet and a ribbon bar (the dark orange with dark green side edges I gave you a while back).

      Cheers,

      Erik

      PS I tried to upload some pictures of different award documents for the OHK, but although the smallest was only 80 Kb I get: The total filespace required to upload all the attached files is greater than your per post or global limit. Please reduce the number of attachments or the size of the attachments. What's wrong?

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