ErikMuller

Could it be J. L. Hollander?

I think it is! Here's a picture of him from the book "Zeegaande Vloot" (1963).

Welcome Megan!

Glad to see you here to! Looks like most of the old Orders, Awards and Decorations Collecting Forum are over to this forum now

Nice joke....

However, I tried them both with as well as without flash,

without flash was too dark to see something,

but then I tried it this way and sorry...

It was the best I could do.

I'm just a scientist, not a photographer.........

I was just kidding

Leegstra was awarded the Legionnaire Class of the Legion of Merit in 1945. He was an Army-flyer by the way and I can't find him on any list for the Belgian Croix-de-Guerre! And I guess the first ribbon on the second row is either a Belgian Leopolds Order of Order of the Crown with palm.

@ Herr General: could you please e-mail me a 300 dpi version of this picture? I have an update lying for my article on Dutchman, decorated with the Belgian Croix-de-Guerre and I would really love to use this picture!

I checked the book "De Schakel" in which is the famous picture of Leegstra, Beelaerts van Blokland, Boomsma, Lindeman, Vos and Steen after their daring escape to England. This could indeed be Leegstra, although the picture must have been taken some 10 years later.

Strange that he switched from the Army to the Navy. He was appointed Head of the Aviation Department of the Netherlands Purchasing Commission in America in 1943 and - as far as I could find - he stayed there till late 1945. The connection with Belgium and the Indies (Star for Order and Peace), is lost to me.

After the war he worked with the K.L.M. and retired on 1 January, 1975.

the last one with the palm and 3 stripes on each side is the belgian war cross with palm.

the other one might be the legion of merit, thus this could be leegstra.

Leegstra was awarded the Legionnaire Class of the Legion of Merit in 1945. He was an Army-flyer by the way and I can't find him on any list for the Belgian Croix-de-Guerre! And I guess the first ribbon on the second row is either a Belgian Leopolds Order of Order of the Crown with palm.

@ Herr General: could you please e-mail me a 300 dpi version of this picture? I have an update lying for my article on Dutchman, decorated with the Belgian Croix-de-Guerre and I would really love to use this picture!

Depends on the rules of the country of the wearer. In the Netherlands you wear your own countries awards first. Highest to lowest.

Next are the foreign countries alphabetically according to the French names of the countries. If you have more then one award from a foreign country then you wear them also from the highest to the lowest award.

I believe this is the case in most European countries?

Not entirely true: if you wear foreign decorations in the Netherlands you wear them from high to low, and only if two medals of the same class are in a row you wear them in alphabetically according to the French name of the countries. So if someone has an officer, let's say of the Order of the Sword of Sweden, a Knight in the Order of the Crown of Belgium and a Knight in the Order of Merit of Germany, he would wear them: Officer Sword Sweden (S?ede), Knight Merit Germany (Allemange) and Knight Crown Belgium (Belgique).

Matching miniatures are always nice.

Are there miniatures on this picture? Hmmm... Sorry I must be blinded by the flash

I've already asked this in the South East Asia section, but does anyone knowns which awards Queen Sirikit of Thailand has?

Does anyone has a list of honours for Queen Sirikit of Thailand?

She was awarded the Grand Cross of the Order of the Netherlands Lion in 1960 and the Netherlands Medal of the Red Cross in 1963, but I'm looking for her other awards.

Thanks on beforehand!

Ch.,

Erik

Chris,

Was Cloete a Dutchman? Ermelo is in the Netherlands, but he is not amongst the list of Dutchmen who received the Anglo-Boere Oorlogsmedalje in 1938.

Cheers,

Erik

Military Medal List Market Garden

I hope this does help

Welcome to the forum Wilco!

Thank you for making the list complete, Didn't he also wear the bundesverdienstkreuz ?

Yes he did, he held the Cross of Merit 1st class. He also had a list of semi-official and unofficial medals I don't mention on my site. I will post you the article Henny Meijer wrote on him in the weekend. This article gives a full list of all 60 honours he received

Unknown/LM = Dutch/Army Medal

Unknown/HLO.2 = Dutch/Badge of the National Union for Harmonic Physical Education 2nd grade

Unknown/KBVW = Dutch/Cross of Merit of the Union of Brothers-in-Arms

Unknown/PKZ.2 = Poland/Polish Cross of Merit in silver

Ahhhhh HA aha! Kunstmann's SCHAUMBURG-Lippe House Order 4 with Crown was the ONLY award in that grade made during World War One--

he received it on 10 October 1916.

I would love to have a look in your library

Keep the good work going Rick!

I'm with the idea they might belong together, but I'm not with the Mediteranean link. The Maltese Order/Cross as in my humble opinion quite similar to the Johanniter Order, but given to Katholics, not Protestants (Johannniter Order was a ONLY Protestant decoration!). I don't think they had to have been there for getting it.

I thought Mediteranean because of the Turkish Red Crescent Society Medal, I know the Maltese Cross of Merit was also awarded for medical relief in Russia and France during WW1, but, if I'm correct, the TRCS Medal was only awarded to those aiding the TRCS at their own fronts.

Wow what a lovely bar! If both bars belonged together, my best guess would be that the guy was a civilian doctor who served on the Mediterranean during WW1.

Ch.,

Erik

That's a nice bronze one! I like it.

Indeed! Lovely piece!

Duitsche onderscheiding.

Naar het Corr. Bureau verneemt, heeft het Duitsche Ministerie van Marine het IJzeren Kruis der 2e klasse verleend aan de kapiteins der Mariniers H. Baron van Hemert tot Dingshof en L. Spiegelberg.

Beide officieren hebben indertijd deel uitgemaakt van de Nederlandsche gezantschapswacht te Peking, toen het Nederlandsche gezantschap aldaar belast was met de behartiging der belangen van de Duitsche onderdanen in China.

Source: Het Vaderland, Wednesday 30 June 1920, evening issue A.

To give another answer to Rick's question: Duitsche Ministerie van Marine means German Ministry of the Navy. So I guess the different branches of the German government of 1920 awarded their own Iron Crosses.

Your Right about the Lion and the Sun Jacky, the first person ( B ) is also wearing this decoration.

Are you sure about the Order of the Sword from Sweden? The Grandcross doesn't look te same ....

Any ideas about the unknown neckdecoration from person B?

It is most certainly not the GC-star of the Order of the Sword, but what it is... no idea!

On Picture 1 the officer is wearing a 3rd class of the Order of the Lion and the Sun, not a 4th class. The number of the arms of the star are linked to the grade: 8 = 1st grade, 7 = 2nd grade, 6 = 3rd grade, 5 = 4th grade and 4 = 5th grade. This one has 6 arms!

Unfortunately I've got quite a library (and I have to move it in a couple of weeks )

Ah yes, i have written it down that in het Paleis "Loo" there whould also be a white falcon, higher grade (a Star) => should be made by Wolfers / Brussels/ Any chance of getting me pictures of that one => both front and reverse? I am intereste din that one to see this Wolfers product as it does come near the Black eagle from King Leop II i have written about.

Will see what I can do. I have to go there to make pictures for my book on de Red Cross Medal anyways, so maybe George Sanders let me take some pictures of other medals to

What kind of foreign awards are Hoogenhuyze and Froger wearing?

Froger: Legion d'Honneur ?

Hoogenhuyze: Italian order ? Austrian Red Cross ?

Froger:

Knight in the Order of Orange-Nassau with swords

Officer's Long Service Cross

Mobilisation Commemorative Cross 1914-1918

Knight of the Order of the Sword of Sweden

Hoogenhuyze

Military William's Order, Knight 4th class

Expedition Cross with three clasps

Large Gold Proficiency Medal of the Netherlands Olympic Committee with golden crown

Officer's Long Service Cross

Mobilisation Commemorative Cross 1914-1918

Medal of Honour of the Hungarian Red Cross

Decoration 2nd class of the Austrian Red Cross with War Decoration

Eric, in the newspaper archives these persons are often named together:

Luitenant-Kolonel W. Froger, Majoor J.A.G. van Andel and Kapitein Baron van Ittersum

Could this be the missing Kapitein ?

He is listed as Kapitein-Adjudant of the 19th Infantry Regiment in 1923, so this could be possible!

Not the Balkan war but something I just ran in to. Maybe nice to get your interesting topic back in the list.

Het vaderland 6 februari 1941 Avondblad C

http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs512&d=07071&f=ambulance.jpg

Roel,

Thanks! These were known!

The Netherlands Red Cross had sent ambulances to:

France / Germany in 1870-1871

The Boer War 1901-1902

The Balkan War 1912-1913

The Second Balkan War 1913

The Pestilence in the Indies 1914-1916

France/Germany/Hungary/Russia, etc. 1916-1918

Ethiopia 1935-1936

Finland 1940-1941

France 1940

Indies 1945-1950

Most of these ambulances were richely decorated!

Thanks Eric and Jacky for your comments and thank Eric for your ID's. What is your source? A Ranklist?

My source: "Gedenkboek Grenadiers en Jagers 1929-1939"

Jacky,

You're not correct (sorry!)

He's wearing:

Flood Medal in bronze

Officer's Long Service Cross

Mobilisation War Cross 1914-1918

Knight of the Order of Military and Civil Merit of Adolph of Nassau (Luxembourg)

I've identified him as Major J.A.G. van Andel!

Since the information on this picture was getting a bit 'stretched', I moved the picture and the ID's to some unused webspace.