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*off-topic*

Nick,
sometimes your contacts and material“sources“ really scares me …

Kidding...

Or simply date of issuance / hand-over (purchase date?) to the holder?

Any help with his name translation will be greatly appreciated

Nick, I would say TONO Kishichiro or FUJINO Kishichiro

Great items!!!

Anyhow an intersting point:

A medal, which was established in 1930 for a disaster, which happend in 1923 and seems like produced/awarded (at least) until 1932.

Nice variation anyhow!

Good luck, Dieter!

Yeah!

Whole new biz...

They call it wrapperistik!

Cool idea, Nick! I think I will safe money for a new printer. Might be not that difficult to get any authentic paper (Nick, any connection to the paper-mafia?). And then - let's start a new business!

I accept any offers! Showa 7? Showa 12? No problem - customer is king!

Well, the medals are easy to find - the wrappers are more challenging!

I wish, I could take you at your word...

Maybe, I looked at the wrong corners?

Good luck!

Interesting to see this set, without being able to judge authenticity of this combination:

China Incident Commemorative Medal + case from a China Incident War Medal.

Some rhetoric thoughts:

...a contemporary combination for presentation reasons?

...an alternative solution because of lack of (official released) cases for the China Incident Comm. Medal?

...or just a feeble construction of this dealer to push the sales?

BR,

Chris

Make sense!

(Sorry for the double-posting, my PC is already in sleeping modus )

This means, it WAS possible to buy cases at any (military) shop in the 1930s/40s?

Theoretically this is possible ...

But it still should be a cardboard case...

LDO dreamer :

No preference with LDO

This means, it WAS possible to buy cases at any (military) shop in the 1930s/40s?

Sorry for this stupid question, but what is so special on the Showa 7 wrap?

To get it right, there are wrap papers with the year Showa 5 (1930) and 6 (1931)?

What about a neutral and privately bought item? E.g. a wooden box?

I'm curious, if boxes could be available freely and persons could buy them.

Money doesn't matter!

- just kidding!

Well, if MY dream comes true and I would own this set, I AM PLEASED

But indeed, a very nice medal! Congrates to the buyer

I'm not that easy to please

Let`s make a dream come true!

Thanks a lot Taganrog!

Whose dream?

Agree with Dieter - phantastic item!

Thanks for sharing, Pieter / Nick!

So the "Boxers" dominates "Rehabilitation" in propotion 1,7 to 1 .

Is that really possible?!

According to the Decoration Bureau the answer is yes

Nick, I don't think we can use numbers of PRODUCED medals to numbers of (really) AWARDED medals and in argumentum e contrario, get back to the ratio.

Depending on the sources (e.g. Susanne KUSS: 'Deutsches Militär auf kolonialen Kriegsschauplätzen[...]', pp. 58-59), number of Japanese soldiers during the Boxer Rebellion varies from 17,000 to 22,000 men. This does not include any "non-military persons", of course. How should we "justify" 54,000 (produced? or awarded?) medals?

I wonder if there will be a tremendous increase in prices of Rehabilitation medals after this thread

I wash my hands on it!

Absolutely stunning information! Thank your for sharing it!

Unmarked specimens exist?

I don't know either - just a hypothetical guess. But why not? Maybe some "over-worked" Japanese worker forgot to mark some medals?

My information came from an extraordinary source I just got yesterday: 2000 pages of primary documents from the Decorations Bureau. I had no idea this 2-volume set existed, and was surprised to find it. So excited since there is medal info on every page. Not always the kind we are looking for, but I am sure I will find a lot in here.

Let me look closer at the numbers for this medal (numbers are not given for every medal, sorry to say...) to confirm.

(BTW, the same chart showed that 42, 000 paper wraps were ordered.)

That's a great find! Can you specify more detailed, what kind of documents these are? Is it any official volume or some (yet) not published sources from any archive?

Gents,

Although not really optimistic, I’d like to start my enquiry here.

For my PhD, I’m looking for any personal belongings or information about the Colonel Marquis Torataro SAIGO (1866–1919), member of the famous Saigo-clan. Saigo was commander of the POW “camps” at Tokyo Asakusa and later, in Narashino, before he died on the Spanish Flue in 1919.

I’d like to underline, that this is not a “Buy Enquiry” / bid! I’m not interested in buying any belongings, but will be happy for any copies for the sake of my research!

I am not sure, if there are still some belongings existing in some collector hands or in any archives or inside members of the Saigo family.

If somebody has some hints or ideas, it’ll be really grateful!

Any comments are welcome via pm.

Thanks in advance and br,

Chris

Another one - with "origin" case