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    Rogi

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    1. Very interesting pieces :D Hmm could it be the artist's own creation? I've seen a lot of artists adjust orders and medals to fit the situation.

      Could also be something non-Russian but nothing springs to mind :(

      Another possibility that it reminds me of, is a Court homage, to say a royal family, custom producers produce similar pieces as to this one that showed the wearers affection towards the Czar.

      Will be interesting to see what other members say :) really intrigued by this order :D

    2. Thank you Farmer :)

      I'll make a close up of it hopefully today or tomorrow :) but the upper hallmark section is blank (near the crown) (sadly :( I went over it religiously when it arrived :D

      The only identification we have for my variant is the other known example in the book (which is a 3rd class) in a Belgium case Brussels, Joseph Piret Jeweler. We can only really stipulate to it either being Pirets or Hugeunin (since it shares similaries to pieces like Obi's that is believed to be from that manufacturer)

      If you see an alternative hallmark, let me know :) because that was the only section I could make out :D

    3. It definitely looks like a punch on the suspension of the reverse, perhaps the owner can check.

      On all these unknown producers, if they do have a punch it is usually blank, that is why they are unknown, the reason for this lack of hallmark could be due to a couple reasons, here is my example for reference, it has a Hallmark indentation but is blank :) It is from a similar producer (or a later variant of the same production) if you check the book referenced you'll see the similarities :)If we found even 1 or 2 with a hallmark then it might solve the mystery, there are a couple other threads with Obi's St. Sava that can also be used for a reference but so far to my memory none of these has a hallmark (I think Obi's is blank as well, but it would be great if he double checked :)

      Here is mine as an example.

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    4. The most peculiar thing for me was how nice the suspension was, its not tampered or soldered.

      I guess you could clip the sword off and edit accordingly, The thing that worried me about this piece on the side view is that you can't see a side photo to determine if there were arms attached at all originally, the plate covers the portion where swords could be attached, when compared to other Kara George's it isn't this way.

      As for the crown if it was a soldier's issue originally could explain why there is no enamel on the crown itself.

      to me there are two options to consider

      1. Custom piece from Jeweler who made it on the order of the recipient.

      2. Fake or some type of re-hash and reused piece, top and bottom was re hashed off of a type 1 and added to a type 2 with some re-enamelling work. (what we are assuming to be enamel, this could be nail polish for all we know :D)

      The thing with it that leads me to more a 1 than 2 option is that it is done so well. It makes you want believe it is option 1 :D

    5. It could be just a fad that they are appearing regularly, sometimes we get a lot of Bravery or Combat Service medal bars hit the market in Soviet collecting. Sometimes it just happens that it is popular that month to sell that certain style were as some other months you could get labor medal bars etc. Only negative is if you enjoy collecting these you have to pick and choose which ones are your favorite vs buying everything out there :D because when they start to thin out, you won't have as many options :) and something else will take over the popularity :)

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