Gordon Craig

November 27, 2023

Terry,

There is a considerable amount of information on the web about VADs in Canada. Especially in WWI. Here is an article from the Parks Canada web site that covers the subject well in relatively few words.

Regards,

Gordon

Voluntary Aid Detachments

From: Parks Canada

Backgrounder

Although unable to enlist, over 2,000 Canadian women volunteered and found a way to serve their country during the Great War and during two national emergencies at home -- the Halifax Explosion and the deadly Spanish Flu pandemic. Organized by the Canadian Red Cross and St. John Ambulance, Voluntary Aid Detachments (VAD) worked as nurses’ aides, ambulance drivers, and clerical staff at convalescent hospitals in Canada and at some hospitals overseas. They assisted overworked medical and nursing staff in caring for thousands of injured and sick servicemen, some facing the same dangers and hardships as soldiers, nurses, and doctors working near the front lines.

Voluntary Aid Detachments first emerged in 1914 as Canada’s Militia Department made preparations at home, in anticipation of war in Europe. They were initially intended to create an emergency reserve of trained men and women who would support military medical services in case of invasion on Canadian soil. Later, following the outbreak of the First World War, the VAD program developed into a female volunteer nursing corps, as male recruits were quickly drawn into the armed forces. Canadian VAD units were modelled on a British system established in 1909, intended to supplement existing army nursing reserves. These reserves consisted of both professional nurses and civilian volunteers trained in first aid. While the British program utilized some 23,000 VAD nurses during the Great War, the Canadian program was more modest. Still, the number of women who enrolled as Canadian VAD members was considerable -- by the war’s end, some 2,000 had trained and qualified as VAD nurses. While the majority were limited to working in military convalescent hospitals on the home front, an estimated 500 Canadian VAD members served in British military hospitals overseas.

The first Canadian Voluntary Aid Detachments were formed in Halifax, Québec City, and Saint John, because these ports were expected to be the first to receive wounded soldiers returning from overseas. These were later followed by units in Montreal, Ottawa, and Victoria. Initially, VAD members engaged in non-nursing activities distributing comforts such as chocolate bars and cigarettes to departing troops and wishing them a safe return home. As the war progressed, however, they helped to prepare, open, and staff military convalescent hospitals. This role became particularly important as increasing numbers of sick and wounded soldiers returned to Canada in early 1915.

Many VADs were anxious to go overseas where the need was greatest, but it was not until September 1916 that the first contingent of Canadian VAD members left in response to a request from the British Red Cross. Although the Canadian Army Medical Corps (CAMC) refused to use voluntary nurses in its overseas hospitals, VAD nurses were welcomed into British military hospitals. Overall, St. John Ambulance in Canada supplied more than 360 volunteers for overseas postings, while many other Canadian VAD members financed their own passages to England and applied directly to British VAD headquarters in London. Working in the British military medical establishment, Canadian VAD nurses served as probationers (trainees) who were supervised by professional nurses. As was the case in Canadian convalescent hospitals at home, they assisted with various nursing tasks, such as making beds, preparing diets for invalids, and ensuring the overall comfort of soldiers. In some instances, VAD work approached that of trained nurses, as volunteers changed surgical dressings and performed night duty in charge of wards. Like the military nurses under whom they served, Canadian VAD members posted in France, and more distant battle zones were exposed to frontline dangers and hardships. A number of volunteers were recognized for their bravery during enemy attacks.

Both at home and in overseas operations, VAD work varied greatly depending on the location and hospital type. Detachment members performed any number of tasks, working as nurses’ aides, ambulance drivers, clerical staff, and in any other auxiliary capacity required of them during the war.

VAD nurses also demonstrated their training and skill in the aftermath of the Halifax explosion in December 1917 and during the “Spanish” influenza pandemic of 1918. They provided crucial medical and nursing assistance during these two national crises.

Canadian VAD nurses served for the duration of the Great War and beyond, helping to care for convalescent soldiers well after the Armistice in 1918, and were officially demobilized in October 1920.

November 4, 2023

Without a picture it is very difficult to respond to your request.

Regards,

Gordon

October 31, 2023

No One,

Thanks for posting this extremely interesting story of the man and his medals. Well beyond the financial reach of many of us of great use to those of us interested in Japanese and Arctic medals.

Regards,

Gordon

October 26, 2023

Michael,

Here is a link to the Belgian POW escapee medal.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escapees'_Cross_1940–1945#:~:text=The Escapees' Cross 1940–1945,government in exile in London.

Regards,

Gordon

October 24, 2023

In ribbon bars like this, it probably belonged to a General Officer originally, the individual made their own decision as to what ribbons would be included in the bar. The General officer involved would have had many other awards, including long service ones, but as I said above, it was his choice as to what he wore. Rarely were all the persons complete awards displayed.

Regards,

Gordon

October 18, 2023

Bill,

Thanks for your response. I had read somewhere that because the original issue was for a ribbon and that the medals was introduced at a later date that only the ribbon was authorized for wear by U S forces. Thanks for confirming that. Interesting that you had to purchase your own ribbon. I have seen these ribbons in wear by those who served during the invasion and those who stayed behind to fight afterwards. The difference being that those who actually fought during the invasion wore a small bronze star on the ribbon. Thanks again for your help.

Regards,

Gordon

October 15, 2023

Farkas,

Your assumptions are correct. They are either all fakes/repros or just plain fantasy badges. To compare the numbered badges look at this site. https://www.medalbook.com/germany-third-reich-1933-1945/badges/n-s-d-a-p-golden-party-badge/nsdap-golden-party-badge-large-version-1 . I am not an expert but the badge on this site appears to be authentic. You should do some research on the correct lettering on these badges. The book published on these badges is long out of print and worth its weight in gold if you could find one and afford the price. There are some collectors on WAF that know these badges very well.

Regards,

Gordon

October 12, 2023

Looking for some assistance in identifying the pictured medal. I would also like to know if it is the correct box. If it isn't in the correct box what is this box for.

Regards,

Gordon

October 11, 2023

Farcas,

There should not be M numbers on the items that have them. They were not NSDAP items and therefore did not fall under the regulations covering the sale of Party insignia etc. The Kyffhauser cap badge appears to be authentic.

Regards,

Gordon

October 7, 2023

The following response was posted by Antonio on the WAF. I have translated it to English.

PERMANENCE IN THE LEGION
To see the enlarged emblems, click on the image
To see a larger picture of a particular badge please click on it

Royal circular order of November 26, 1923, order of May 6, 1938 and order 371/7812/81 of June 3

Description of the badge It will consist of the emblem of the Legion, 55 millimeters high, embroidered in gold, which will be worn on the right side of the chest. At the bottom, five millimeters apart and spaced four millimeters apart, as many red bars, two millimeters thick and the width of the emblem, will be added as many full years have remained in said bodies. For every five years, as many red bars will be replaced by one embroidered in gold, five millimeters thick, placed in the place of the first. Conditions for use 1st. One year of permanence and 20 acts of arms. 2nd. Two years of permanence and 10 acts of weapons. 3rd. Three years of permanence and five acts of arms. 4th. Being injured, becoming useless or disabled. 5th. One year of stay and injured in an armed incident. 6th. Being injured in two armed incidents. 7th. Three years of permanence. For these purposes, those in which the force that commanded during the action who aspires to the distinction has suffered casualties will be considered as acts of arms (...)

1.—The insignia of the Legion will be granted by application of any of the previous sections. 2.—There will be the right to add bars to the insignia of the Legion, regardless of the section for which application they have been granted. 3.—Notwithstanding the above, the bars whose addition is granted to badges granted by application of section 7 will be, by exception, black, and every five black bars granted must be replaced by a silver one, which may be replaced for those of red and gold if any of the other conditions are met after the granting.
6 years of permanence (sections 1 to 6)	7 years of permanence (6 years sections 1st to 6th + 1 year section 7th)	12 years of permanence (6 years sections 1st to 6th + 6 years section 7th)	5 years of permanence (section 7)

October 6, 2023

Chris,

Interesting picture and very useful answer from Antonio. I am going to past an English translation here of Antonio's link.

Regards,

Gordon

Royal circular order of November 26, 1923, order of May 6, 1938 and order 371/7812/81 of June 3

Description of the badge It will consist of the emblem of the Legion, 55 millimeters high, embroidered in gold, which will be worn on the right side of the chest. At the bottom, five millimeters apart and spaced four millimeters apart, as many red bars, two millimeters thick and the width of the emblem, will be added as many full years have remained in said bodies. For every five years, as many red bars will be replaced by one embroidered in gold, five millimeters thick, placed in the place of the first. Conditions for use 1st. One year of permanence and 20 acts of arms. 2nd. Two years of permanence and 10 acts of weapons. 3rd. Three years of permanence and five acts of arms. 4th. Being injured, becoming useless or disabled. 5th. One year of stay and injured in an armed incident. 6th. Being injured in two armed incidents. 7th. Three years of permanence. For these purposes, those in which the force that commanded during the action who aspires to the distinction has suffered casualties will be considered as acts of arms (...)

1.—The insignia of the Legion will be granted by application of any of the previous sections. 2.—There will be the right to add bars to the insignia of the Legion, regardless of the section for which application they have been granted. 3.—Notwithstanding the above, the bars whose addition is granted to badges granted by application of section 7 will be, by exception, black, and every five black bars granted must be replaced by a silver one, which may be replaced for those of red and gold if any of the other conditions are met after the granting.
6 years of permanence (sections 1 to 6)	7 years of permanence (6 years sections 1st to 6th + 1 year section 7th)	12 years of permanence (6 years sections 1st to 6th + 6 years section 7th)	5 years of permanence (section 7)

October 5, 2023

I am seeking information on the Philippine Defence medal as issued to American forces when it was originally authorized in 1945. What did the attachment on the back of the ribbon look like? Did it come in a box or a paper envelope? Any information on the medal, as originally issued, would be appreciated.

Regards,

Gordon

October 1, 2023

Peron,

5th M is 5th Mounted Rifles. S.A.S.E is South African Service Engineers, Ref - https://stampssa.africa/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/SA-Mil-Abbreviations.pdf

Regards,

Gordon

September 30, 2023

Phillip S,

Sorry that I missed your post in 2022. I can not answer either question from memory so I will not try. All of my Hungarian reference books are still in storage. Cimbineus wrote my reference book and he could certainly answer your question should he log on again.

Regards,

Gordon

September 28, 2023

Phillip S,

Very nice set of badges. I can not say much about this set as all of my reference books are in storage since we moved into a condo. It's too bad that the first badge posted doesn't show what the back looked like. There is another type of case with the position of the large and small badges reversed. The back of these badges is the same as the one that you posted.

Regards,

Gordon

September 23, 2023

Displayed are four for pistol shooting competition documents in which a chap named Seiger to part. Some are for team shooting and some for single competition. They date from the 70s and the 80s.

Regards,

Gordon

September 23, 2023

Try the Anglo Boer War site https://www.angloboerwar.com/other-information/91-research-and-family-history/1851-qsa-medal-roll-index

Regards,

Gordon

September 23, 2023

Glad that I could add something to you on Hungarian medals.

Regards,

Gordon

September 21, 2023

The Order of Merit for Mothers comes in two classes. Silver and gold with gold the highest. The Medal of Merit comes in four classes. Bronze, Silver, silver and gold, and Gold with gold the highest. In the reference I have on hand for these awards the criteria for the awarding is not clear so if anyone has that criteria please add it to this thread. Here is my translation of the Hungarian text in my reference book;

A star with 10 rays, in the center of which is the figure
of a women with an infant held in her left arm and an 
unfurled flag in her right hand. Next to her is a little 
boy with his left hand on the flagpole with a small girl 
next to him. At the bottom is the 1949 State Coat of Arms. 
The State Coat of arms is enameled on the Order and is 
not enameled on the Medal.  Six sides are smooth.(?) 
Material: gold-plated stamped. Size: 43 mm. 
They were worn on a red-white-grey-red, even striped 
ribbon.

The Order of Merit and Medal of Merit were awarded from 
1951 until 1957. It could be given to mothers who 
brought six or more children into the world and raised 
them. I-II for the Order of Merit, I-IV for the Medal of 
Merit. He had a degree.(?)The Order of Merit I degree 
could be awarded to a mother who raised a child of II 
or more. Distinguished degrees awarded to 35,000 mothers 
between 1951-57.

Regards,

Gordon

September 21, 2023

15 hours ago, Freejack said:

Thanks for the advice. I showed a cross on WAF. Everyone there said that the cross was original Souval. But on another forum, they told me that it was garbage. I do not know what to think. Look at the numbers 1939, and the swastika. The first cross on WAF is said to be original. The second cross is also original but on a different forum. on the first cross of the number 1939 the top shows the line. The second cross (identified as 100% original) numbers 9 and 9 are smaller in size than 1 and 3. Swastika, look, the first swastika cross has a shape with vertical sides at an angle, the second cross, the swastika has vertical sides without an angle and I marked the difference in red. The first cross has a strange stamp, the second is very high quality 800.

I am thinking , maybe better to stop to buy WW2 items.

Thanks Gentlemen for yours answer

Freejack,

I collected Third Reich artifacts for a number of years and then quit. There are two things that you need to accept if you buy German artifacts from this era. At some point you will buy something you feel is legit only to find out later that it is a fake. Also, as you have already noted, some collectors will tell you an article is real and some will tell you it is fake. Who do you believe? And is the person giving you their opinion of your pictured item knowledgeable or not? I now collect post war German artifacts. Mostly police and ODMs from many different countries. No matter what you collect there is always the danger of copies made to deceive the collector. Third Reich era prices are so high that they attract people to make fakes. It is too much of a mine field for many collectors.

Regards,

Gordon

September 20, 2023

Freejack,

There is a sub forum on the Waffen Awards Forum (WAF) that I would suggest you post your cross on. The collectors who post there specialize in the area you are seeking answers on. https://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/forums/forum/wehrmacht-era-militaria/-1957-medals-orders-and-decorations

Regards,

Gordon

September 17, 2023

Interesting review of the Order. I'd like to add some pages from a book, published by the Republic of Argentina in 1968, on the regulations from 1957 and 1958. The pictures are glossy prints pasted onto the pages of the book and suffer from clarity but as an official book it is a useful document. I acquired it from a rare book seller in South Africa several years ago.

Regards,

Gordon

September 17, 2023

Tony,

Thanks for adding to the thread. I was wondering if it would be possible to judge WWI and WWII badges like this by makers mark and your badge certainly lends credence to that theory.

Regards,

Gordon

September 16, 2023

Farkas,

While I'm willing to accept these badges existed in WWII I feel that they probably had a long history. https://www.express.co.uk/expressyourself/651255/Women-sewing-circles-helped-Britain-win-WW2-war-UK Possibly dating from WWI or even earlier. There were many Women's Sewing Circles in Canada that came into being in 1914. I am sure the same thing happened in the UK. And not just for the RN. Here is an example of one of the Canadian groups founded in WWI to knit for the troops. Primarily for a specific and many of the wives became members of the sewing circle.

http://rhymeswithfyfe.blogspot.com/2013/06/westmount-soldiers-wives-league.html I have a badge to this organization but unfortunately none on file that I can post now.

Do the search continues for more background on these badges.

Regards,

Gordon

Thomas Fattorini Ltd

What I have posted below does not guarantee that theses badges were produced during WWI but an interesting fact about a factory that did produce Home Front badges during WWI.
Regards,
Gordon

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Thomas Fattorini Ltd is a manufacturing jeweller and designer-maker of awards, trophies, ceremonial swords, civic insignia, medals and name badges. The company is located on three sites in Manchester, Birmingham and London with their head office in Skipton, North Yorkshire.

History[edit]

The company was founded in 1827 by Antonio Fattorini an Italian speaking immigrant who was born in 1797, from Bellagio near Como in the north of Italy and who settled in Yorkshire where he began to trade in jewellery, watches and barometers.^[1]^[2] He was one of many Italian immigrants who came to in England between 1790s and 1851 at the time when the Napoleonic wars left northern Italy with a destroyed agriculture and much hardship. The regional origins of most of the Italian immigrants were the valleys around Como, and Lucca with the people from Como being skilled artisans, making barometers and other precision instruments.^[3]

The first record of him trading was at Upton Yard off Briggate, Leeds 1826.^[4] The retail outlets that he established were consolidated in the first generation into three enterprises: Thomas Fattorini in Skipton established in 1827 with the assistance of his brother-in-law Baldisaro Porri who was also a barometer maker and merchant in Skipton, Fattorini and Sons in Bradford in 1829, and Antonio Fattorini in Harrogate in 1831.^[5]

During the First World War the company manufactured badges for the armed forces, including the Royal Flying Corps (R.F.C) badge,^[6] and Home Front badges for civilians.^[7]

Thomas Fattorini Ltd registered its punch at various Assay offices: Birmingham (1918),^[8] Edinburgh (date?), London (date?) and Chester (1898).

The British Hallmarking Council chose a new commemorative mark to celebrate Her Majesty The Queen's Platinum Jubilee 2022 which was designed by Thomas Fattorini. It depicts an Orb, and reflects the traditional fineness mark for platinum.^[9]^[10]

September 16, 2023

Farcas,

Thanks for the link to Sally Bosley's site. So far I've restricted myself to Canadian badges to women's groups (and yes men knit-my brother knit his own socks while he served in Europe in WWII) and I would have bought the Newfoundland badge if it were still available. I might by it yet but there are so many things I want to buy right now!!!!!

Regards,

Gordon

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