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      Serbia - Outstanding Yugoslavian Order of The Crown Set

      in Southern European & Balkan States

      Posted

      Very nice Grand Officer set, and indeed a rare variant, SORLINI from Serbia. Most of the sets have been made by Huguenin in Switzerland.

      Anyhow, the price is toooooo high. You should be able to find a GO set for max 1200-1400 US$.

      The seller is OK, I had only positive experience with him.

      Regards

      Milan

      PS: look at more variants on my website www.orden.stojanovic.ch

      In case the link doesn't work, item number 260239739468

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      Not ready Order of National Liberation

      in Southern European & Balkan States

      Posted

      Hello Waldemar

      it may be ugly as it is but I would not be very fast with stamping this a "real" fake. It is obvious that it was not made for being atributed that is for sure, but it could (and probably) is a really in IKOM made let's call it probe.

      I had in my collection more than 10 pieces of different medals and orders made of completely differnt materials with all kind of quality grades and all of them came out directly and proven from IKOM. In the period when former Yugoslavia broke up many stuff from IKOM's cellar and stores came into peoples hands and was distributed by differnt sellers, ebay etc. .

      I would put this order of National Liberation as "essai" and store it in the "CURIOSITIES" part of my collection, if the price is reasonable. But I assume that the seller is a Astrophysician and asks by far too much for this piece. If not, then take it !!!

      Best regards

      Milan

      Gentlemen,

      Lately spotted on internet: not ready Order of National Liberation. Seller says that he bought it in IKOM in 1985.

      As we know Order of National Liberation is normally made from two pieces, the star and on top a relief made from patinated silver. Relief is connected to the star using two rivets.

      This order is one piece construction, with three round signs on reverse which are made in places where normally two rivets are and screw back.

      This signs for holes needed for rivets convinced me that in this particular case it is not a new model for one piece construction.

      I think that this is a fake, if you look at details you will see poor quality many irregularities.

      Order of National Liberation is expensive; the probability that this order will be fake is very high. This order is not particularly complicated in the production; I think that we will see soon many of new orders with much better quality as this one shown today.

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      Serbia - A Serbian Officer?

      in Southern European & Balkan States

      Posted

      Thanks for the question, doing fine, by far too much business but I won't complain.

      Ribbons are not too much "my thing" but I have a huge box, I will open it up on monday and take a pic and send it to you via PM so you can see what is laying arround.

      Spinks auction on Thursday was nice regarding Serbia and Montenegro but once again like in the last two years the prices went off orbital !

      Best regards :cheers:

      Milan

      Thanks a lot Milan, happy to speak with you...How are you???. Something interesting ??.

      By The way do you have some austrian triangiular repalcement ribbons for a bravery medal??

      Thanks again, happy to see you here. :beer:

      Miguel

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      Serbia - A Serbian Officer?

      in Southern European & Balkan States

      Posted

      Ola Miguel, good evening

      the upper right corner says "Cakanu-Milanu" za uspomenu --- which would say (in free translation) --- to the beautiful Milan in memory - 28. may 1939

      Pozarevac (a town in Serbia) from Bata B. Sekulovica

      I have my own problems with reading the cyrillic hand written text but I think that this could be correct.

      Regards

      Milan

      http://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_04_2008/post-4281-1209172471.jpghttp://gmic.co.uk/uploads/monthly_04_2008/post-4281-1209172494.jpg

      This photo came with a Medal to Royal House Services (Karageorgevich).

      I would know the meaning of the photo reverse :blush:

      Thanks

      Miguel

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      Serbia - Some decorations and badges

      in Southern European & Balkan States

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      Hello Miguel

      I will have to look at the regulations from that period to say how exactly the way was they had to be worn. But as far as I have seen on pictures the rules of precedence have been respected regarding orders, for medals the rules were not that strictly respected so you can see and find many variations of precedence of medals.

      Regards Milan

      PS:

      second answer for Ulsterman

      the Ljotic Serbian Volunteer Corps as the official correct name was has indeed the force of a regiment (3700 men) so the badge could very well be compared to Russian regimental badges.

      BTW the inscription around the badge says "with faith in god for the king and the fatherland- volunteers"

      Yes It looks like a MO bravery medal silver (2nd class)

      Milan I want to ask you why in some No orders groups, the "Albanian retreat medal" is placed in first place, like in the pisc you send that has preeminence over the military zeal medal and other campaign medals...It?s not considered a campaign medal?? Is a "Royal House" medal??

      Thanks

      Miguel

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      Serbia - Some decorations and badges

      in Southern European & Balkan States

      Posted

      Hi

      the top right badge is from the Ljotic National volonteers guard from WWII

      Best regards

      Milan

      Dear Gentlemen,

      I'm actually "Imperial German" but came across those for a very reasonable price on eBay so bought them. If better pictures should be needed - it's not possible yet but I'll post them as soon as I have the badges here. The medal is a "Milos Obilic medal", awarded for bravery - that's all I found yet. The two other things seem to be Serbian too, so I guess the crown may be as well. Any comment appreciated, thanks in advance. =)

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      Serbia - Different Types of Commemorative WWI

      in Southern European & Balkan States

      Posted

      Hello William

      correct response, the two main producers of theese medals have been in first place Arthus Bertrand and a little bit later on Huguenin from Switzerland. There are even more variatins than this two, the most RRR is the one where the number "7" in 1917 is missing the small bar across. I will try to make pics and post them. As you already know my time ressources are pretty low.

      Best regards

      Milan

      These are just from different manufacturers, hence the variations.

      William

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