Gerd Becker

Wouldn?t it correspond more to the Soviet Order of the Red Star? Not from numbers of issue of course, but it was given for bravery and for long service, like the Polar Star. I think, Badge of Honor doesn?t work, as its only a Labor Award.

Just my 2 Eurocents...

Gerd

For Dan

Yeah, i know, what you mean. Mine are not as high as yours, but high enough. The last research bill was more than i spent for my most expensive Order/Medal group.

Hi Bryan, thank you and yes, it came from there

Gerd

I bet that you will come back with some interesting paperwork for that Red Star!

Paul

Paul, i guess, you are right. Its a nice early piece and was probably awarded for something interesting. I have another researched early Red Star:

http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=1541

best,

Gerd

Great collection Paul. I love the Medical Tunic in post #3

Absolutely! As Ricks' tattoo reads "RESEARCH RESEARCH RESEARCH".

You make a good point that research may some day be closed off and we need to get all the information we can in whatever windows of opportunity exist. While it may be a silly investment in terms of resale value, it is a mandatory investment when it comes to the restoration of history to what is otherwise just a pretty chunk of metal, enamel, and (sometimes) ribbon. Doug is absolutely right.

It also makes the Master Researcher very happy and pays the cost of his new house.

We await the results . . .

Thanks, Ed. I never think about the resale value, when i buy a piece, but about the historical significance it may have. I have enjoyed all of my researches so far, and this piece just speaks to you and i am very curious, what results it will bring. Will keep you updated of course.

Thanks again to all who commented!

Gerd

Oh Fine Gerdy! just be dissin the Hungies!!!

Sally, i?ll put one together soon only in your honor

Sorry for the late response Gerd. I don't show up very often in the Collectors Showcase forum and stick more to the Communism forum. I have to admit that you have an impressive collection after only 2 years and some months. It's been also for me in August-September my second collecting year of Soviet medals. Too bad we haven't started earlier when they were dirt cheap.

You made a nice presentation and did well by framing them. Too made I didn't manage to add time to visit you and see your collection while I was in Germany. I hope next time I'll be able.

Congratulations again and I must also admit that I really like the Red Banner display case!

It seems that you prefer to collect the groups and the Red Banners. Do you also have some Liberation, Capture and Defence medals outside of the ones you have in groups?

Hello Bryan,

thanks for the compliments. Like the title implies, its more an addiction sometimes. You are right, i wish, i would have started in 1991 or even in 95, when Red Banners and the most screwback orders were cheap compared to today. But you have a very nice collection too now. I am following the progress and you bought some nice groups too, i have seen.

Here are the Liberation, and Defense Medals i have, except the one shown in this thread:

Liberation of Prague with Document

Defense of Leningrad

Defense of Polar Region

and a Warsaw Document, which looks urgently for a Medal to go with it.

Beside that only a few bits and pieces nothing exiting.

Btw, i have just made some changes in this thread and put together this frame with all my single documented Labor awards:

Thanks again

best,

Gerd

Yes indeed... Albert and I are typing and posting simultaneously, so I'll go away for a while. Spent the first half of today on scribbly German, so will take a rest from scribbly Russian!

There is a page showing slowly being promoted from private back through sergeant as he was "rehabilitated."

And people ask "is research WORTH it??????????????????????????????????"

How true. Obviously a dumb question. Its allways worth the research.

Albert,

the award card is 40 Dollar

Citation is 15 Dollar

and service record is also 15 Dollar

in the most cases you get the award card and the citation. If you are lucky, you get the service record too. So the common price for research for a single piece is 55 Dollar, 70 Dollar with service record.

If you need a contact, let me know....

Gilbert, great research

best,

Gerd

Gentlemen,

thanks for your opinions. I am going to get it researched. Its the same with me, the curiousity of the who?s, where?s and why?s are forcing me to reseach the most of my orders, even the single pieces. And who knows how long reseach will be available.

Thanks again

Gerd

Looks really nice, Jens Loops for a Medalbar?

Looks very nice, Doc

Hi everyone,

this is the second Red Star, which came in a lot with the Duplicate, posted in the other thread:

http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=11204

I would like to ask the research-pro?s like Dave, Rick or Doug, if they think, its worth to research such a 5XX.XXX ORS? You guys know me, i research everything , but what do you think? Its definately not a Long Service Award.

Would YOU research it or better the Duplicate, which is most likely also not a LS-award?

Thanks for your opinion.

Gerd

Hi Gilbert,

unfortunately i can only help with the awards on the award card.

He got

Order of the Red Star Nr. 598.701 on 5.7.44

Order of the GPW 1st class Nr. 130.658 on 24.2.45

Order of the GPW 2nd class Nr. 480.236 on 7.5.45

I hope, Rick or one of our russian members can help you further...

best,

Gerd

From what it looks like on my monitor, it looks okay. I like duplicates that look like this (an original piece with the duplicate number stamped on it) rather than a piece with the number rubbed out and then replaced.

Dave

Thanks, Dave. But actually this appears to be a piece, which had a number. I am not 100 % on this, maybe its just a weird allocation of the patina, but there is an area under the serialnumber, which looks, like there could have been a serialnumber. But its damned well done and the digits, size of digits and the "D" look exactly like on other Red Stars, i have seen.

Gerd

Thanks, gentlemen. I am glad, you like it as much as i do I hope to find an ORB duplicate one day. I missed the last one on Alexei?s website

Thanks again

Good afternoon, gentlemen,

i allways wanted a soviet order reissue or duplicate and lately i was finally able to buy this one. ORS Nr. 1.781.725 with small stamped letters and cyrillic "D".

Its a late piece and everything looks right about it in my opinion, when compared to other duplicates.

Comments are welcome...

best,

Gerd

You are welcome, Gilbert

best,

Gerd

Hi Paul,

thats a very nice Gramota. Do you have the badge to the document too? I don?t remember to have seen this particular badge before.

regards,

Gerd

Hi Gilbert,

just go on this website:

http://www.soviet-screwbacks.com/index.html

and click on the Orders database. There you can add either the single awards, you own or the one, you are looking for. They already had a match, btw.

best,

Gerd

Thank you, Andrei. I will definately try to get his award card to find out the numbers. Maybe there is a chance with Alex Filer?s new database.

Gerd

Interesting Gerd, he got a Combat Service medal in the war against Finnland 2/1940.

Is the number for the medal on the award card?

regards

Andreas

Hi Andreas,

no the award card was unfortunately not included. Maybe i will invest the Money to get it, as i am curious about the Finland award too.

Gerd

A BA, a MA, and an almost PhD (had to redefine life at "abd" level) in Slavic studies; plus teaching Russian for a couple of years... Spent a semester in St. Petersburg and two in Kiev. That's only the formal training part .

Teaching russian? Are you prepared for an online-course?

Thats great, Albert. I really wish, i would have done something with Languages too. I?ll have to go with a class at the local VHS, especially as my time is limited. But i will give it a try. And if i see, that my abilities with the russian language are limited, then i hope, at least the teacher is a good looking 28 year old russian brunette

The citation says, service since 1932 and the service record says service since 1926

Will get the award card to get more info.