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Posts posted by Gerd Becker
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Chris thats a beautiful mirror reverse with a lot of character
Here is my most interesting example so far, a suspension ORB awarded for Bravery to a Cossack Cavalry Officer, battleworn for over a year with some interesting characteristics:
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Thanks folks.
Great book, David. I am sure, Don and Robert know more than i do about these, but the book and stamps look perfect to me and i can?t believe, they are faking these. At least, i hope
Gerd
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Thank you, gentlemen, for your kind words. Unfortunately, I missed another family relic. My great grandmother (from mother's side) was awarded with Lenin order. She was a high school principal for many years and probably was awarded in 1950th for a good service. I remember that order, I saw it many times when I was a kid. My great grandmother passed away when I was 5 or 6. Some years later we moved to bigger appartment and the order was sold out to partially cover the price we payed. Mother told me it was sold for 300 USD - very big money for USSR at that period. They sold it with a box and order book, so nothing left. I don't even remember the number. For five last years I'm trying to find it to redeem, but with no luck. I know only the name - Stroynikova Mariya Andreewna. But most likely the order was used either for jewellery black-market production or for dentistry (golden crowns or bridges).
But I still have some hope. Who knows...
Just fantastic to have a Family group.
I have the War Merit Cross 2nd class with swords, which was awarded to my mom, but no documents or photos.
Thanks a lot for sharing.
Fingers crossed, that the Lenin to your Great Grandma will pop up somewhere one day.
Gerd
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Wonderful examples everyone. Thanks for sharing and keep them coming
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All it says is "ProfUnion of Workers of R.R. Transport of the USSR."
Very weird enamel colors, if scan is accurate. That "yellow" red
Yeah, i thought the same. And the green!!!
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How about these Ladies?:
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Here is my contribution, a late Type 4, awarded 1980, Nr. 1.212.055
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Dave,
How did that happen? I would not want to be the one wearing that one on a suspension! I would think that this is a one of a kind mistake!
Nice dark enamel on your Gerds!
Paul,
that ORB has a very dark patina and i had to make the picture a little lighter to see the details, so the color of the enamel is probably a bit misleading.
The one from Dave was converted to suspension because of the regulation changes in 1943. Many Screwback-Orders were converted to Suspension, but rarely was the screwpost not completely removed. Some wearers prefered to keep them as an additional attachment to avoid damage due to swinging.
Gerd
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Here is mine again. Its documented and part of a group. It has a very dark patina. I hope to get research for both of the orders. The one for the Red Star is on the way, but nothing to the OOR yet.
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VERY nice, gentlemen, thanks for sharing.
Here is another Type 4, part of the first group, i bought. Dave, of course you know this one too
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Doc, here is mine. Third research-attempt is in progress, so cross your fingers.
Gerd
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I really like this clunky order, but i only have a documented 3rd class:
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Order of Victory sent pictures of his ORB?s. Here they are:
Thanks for participation everyone! Keep them coming
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Hi Gerd,
What did you mean by this one being a rare version. What makes this one different?
The number is: 162 139
Hi Paul,
sorry, i may have worded my reply wrong due to my exitement. I saw the serialnumber of the one, your talking about, in the meantime.
Your 2nd award ORB, Nr. 18.324 is special, as there are only a few observed in this serianumber-range for this particular subvariation. The normal serialnumber-range for this variantion is observed between 85XX to 165XX. Take a look on the mondvor-website, its Type 3 Variation 4 Subvariation 3 there(phew!):
www.mondvor.narod.ru/ORBan6.htm
(takes some time to load)
The serialnumber of your 2nd award ORB is in the area of the next variation, which has the two-line mint-mark.
Know, what i mean?
Gerd
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Wonderful group, Ed. The Red Banner of Labor, is that a reissue? The serialnumer is still in the range of screwback-types.
Gerd
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But you should avoid to put it in sunlight. If possible, hang it in a shadowy area of the room.
Gerd
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Nice
Interesting idea to display a Medal, btw.
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Nice Darrel
Its on my website as an example for a T3V2
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There were different approaches to mark duplicates of orders. I know of
a) marked "Д"
b) "Duplikat" engraved
c) "D" engraved
d) small stamped serialnumer (sometimes in connection with a)
Gerd
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That is awesome!! Is that a person's name? I have never seen a Soviet order with the person's name engraved on it!!
Paul
Paul, thats the russian word for "Duplikat"
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Talking of Red Banners of Labour remindes me why I got into Soviet Medals, it was first medal I bought. I just love symbolism of the large Hammer and Sickle and it was only ?10.00 (that was three years with its document)
I Currently own three of them,
1. A rather dubious Type 1 wich has been shown on the forum before.
2. Type 5 Variation 2 No. 287685
3. Type 6 Variation 1 No. 859019.
Does any body know why on the Type 6 the hammer goes under sickle and on all other variations the Hammer goes over the sickle?
I guess, they just had to make new ones, as the stock was empty. A part of early Type 6 ORBL?s still have the old Hammer&Sickel.
Gerd
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I currently own three ORB's,
1. Type 2 Variation 2 No. 36411
2. Type 3 Variation 2 No. 272250
3. Type 4 No. 537323
When I work out how to post pic's on here I will show you some pic's.
Order of Victory
I looke forward to see them OoV
Here is another one of mine. A Type 3, Serialnumber 136.023, one of the last observed for this subvariation. Its in beautiful condition and research is in progress
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Well, here's mine, not researched,...as yet
Jan
Interesting one, Jan. What did Alexei and other say to this one, is it a real Duplikat?
Please post the obverse as well
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The Order of the Red Banner
in Russia: Soviet Orders, Medals & Decorations
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and the most interesting reverse of this order: