Gerd Becker

Paul, your 2nd award is one of a few observed Type 3 ORB?s which number falls into the serialnumber-range of a later variation. I hope, our new member MONDVOR can confirm this. If i am right, thats a really nice find!!!

Gerd

Ed, i just love the Kravchenko-group. When it was for sale, i didn?t had the funds to purchase it, but i was glad to see, it went in your collection

Hi Gerd,

The number is 68,994. I have not researched any of them... I want to research the screw back one though!

Hi Paul,

my bad, i meant the second one, you posted. That is definately a Type 3 with a 1XX thousand serialnumber, but i can?t see the whole number.

You should definately research more of them. The Type 3 is very promising and the 2nd award also in my opinion. Unfortunately the archives don?t get better, so its time now!

Lovely stuff, gentlemen. I am drooling

Gerd

Ohhhhhh You guys snuck in other pictures, while i was posting.

@Paul: RESEARCH RESEARCH RESEARCH

Nice, guys.

Paul, whats the number on the first one you have posted? Did you reseach the screwback or any other of them?

Thanks for the pics, everyone

OUTSTANDING !!!

Words fail me...

Lovely, Ed. Thanks for posting. I also research all my single ORB?s, also the undocumented ones.

And i also don?t mind, when an Order has some repairs. Here is my screwback with the typical damage above Hammer&Sickel, it looks like it was converted and re-converted to suspension at some time, but they did a terrific job and its really hard to see. That doesn?t make it any less valuable for me, as its also researched and i can even put a face to it. This was awarded to Anti-Aircraft Colonel Khariton Gordeevich Shashel? and the citation read like follows:

(Translation friendly provided from Rick Research)

"In the division {Soviet artillery unit term here = battalion} since August 1941, obtained excellent military training and military readiness.

He carried out his military tasks for defense of railway bridges over the River Don in the area around Lizhka, with the battalion repelling waves of massed enemy aerial attacks. Showing personal leadership in continuously suppressing enemy air attacks regardless of losses, thanks to correct arrangements within his means and personal leadership, the battalion was able to repel all attacks and protect important defensive objects.

Comrade Shashel' 's personal example and enthusiasm place his personal leadership among the highest heroic advances.

In his military service at anti-aircraft defense points, the battalion shot down 9 and hit 7 enemy aircraft. Comrade Shashel' is devoted to affairs of the Party of Lenin and Stalin and the Socialist Homeland. For displaying personal courage and heroism and personal leadership in repelling enemy air raids, he deserves to be decorated with the Order of the Red Banner.

Chief of Western Front Anti-Aircraft Branch, Colonel-General "Gromadin"

Concur, Chief of Western Front A-A Branch Military Council, Major General "Orlov" "

Keep them coming....

Hello Gentlemen,

as the most of you may have noticed, my favorite soviet award is the ORB. I try to study this order as good as i can and try to see as much ORB?s as possible.

So i would appreciate, if you post some (or better all) of your Red Banners for my (and hopefully others) enjoyment.

I?ll start off with my very first ORB, a Type 4, researched to a Colonel of Aviation, Pavel Ivanovich Yenbekov, already posted on this forum, but though, its nice:

Show me yours!!!

Thanks for looking

Gerd

Great stuff Paul You said, you have tons more. Can you show me a few Red Banners? That would be great.

Thanks for sharing. Very nice groups

This was when he was selling it with his collection about 3-3.5 years ago... This was how he had it displayed in a frame...

Dave, thanks a million. I have it displayed very similar

There is only one minor problem with Epson scanners. Most of the models (including my one) give original pictures that somewhat darker than usual. But it's not a problem if you have Photoshop

I really appreciate that Gerd Becker recommended me to visit this Club. This is a wonderful place and it's a real pleasure for me to be there.

I have some more researched groups in my collection. If somebody interested, I can share them with others.

Andrew, i though, you might like it here and i am glad, you indeed enjoy this forum. And now with you there is finally someone, who i can talk Red Banner Variations and Subvariations with

I am most interested to see more of your awards

that one is fine. Want to see a photo of it from it's original owner in the US?

Dave

Yes, yes, yes ,yes, yes, yes ,yes, yes

Thanks, btw Phew...

In 15 years of collecting Soviet awards, I've encountered less than ten legit groups with the October Revolution, despite the number issued. (I do know of several that aren't "legit" that have the October Revolution, but...) Dave

Dave,

what do you think about this one?:

http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=2771

$815 !!!

If real what do this minis command for price?

I have seen the last real one going for 2000 Dollar. Ask Ralph, what he paid for his

Very very nice group and with great citations

Thanks a lot again for sharing

Gerd

Fantastic group! When i saw it on the sellers website, i thought, thats something for Dave

Paul,

i found an interesting link, while googling this uniform:

http://kampfgruppen.de/

Its in german, but look at the picture-gallery

Thanks Gerd!

Have you seen a lot of these? I am suprised that they would use the uniform of Schutzpolizei. I would have figured that the security guards would have worn a different uniform to prevent confusion.

Well, i am not so into DDR, but i guess, there should be some of them around, if thats the standard-uniform for them. Sorry, can?t help you further, but i am sure, one of the members can solve this riddle.

Gerd

As ever, a superb display, Jos.

All you need now is the "109". Any room in the garden?

Yes, Jos (heh!) he needs a plane, he looks a little bored

Great stuff Any chance of a pic of the Glider (i suppose) behind him?

Gerd

Hi Paul,

"Betriebsschutz" were the guys, who protected the factorys in the DDR.

Gerd

Nice minis everyone

Dan, the last one of yours is indeed most likely an EK 1 for a mini-chain

Oh, now i see, its the one, pictured on your website. Beautiful example

Gentlemen, i would like to recommend to everyone again (not sure, if have done yet) Andrew?s and Igor Pak?s website www.mondvor.narod.ru ,a fantatstic and very up to date reference for soviet orders and medals. You can see some great orders and medals over there and if you are able to read russian, there is a lot of information to find.

Welcome to this forum, Andrew I am glad, you joined. You will like it here.

That is a very nice group, thanks for sharing. Any chance of a picture of the complete group (especially the Red Banners)?

all the best,

Gerd

Last Medal is the Turkish Red Crescent Medal

Quote from http://www.turkishmedals.net/ :

"Instituted in 1903 to reward services to the Red Crescent (the equivalent of the Red Cross in Islamic countries). The medal is round, 29 mm. in diameter, with a red crescent facing left on a white field enameled in the center of the obverse. Below this is a sprig of laurel, and above it the inscription "Humane Assistance". The uniquely shaped suspension bar bears the tughra of Sultan Mehmed Reshad V below a white enameled bar that reads "Ottoman Red Crescent Association." There is also a bar at the top of the ribbon, enameled white, which is sometimes seen with year designations on the bar, indicating years served with the Red Crescent. This medal came in three classes, gold, silver and bronze. There was also an oak leaf device worn on the ribbons of all three classes (white with a narrow red center stripe), but as this was a unique practice among Ottoman medals it is not clear whether this represented an additional award or a higher level within each class. Recommendations for award of the two lower classes were made by the Executive Committee of the Red Crescent, but only the Sultan himself could recommend a recipient of the first class. This medal continued to be awarded after World War I, until the establishment of the Republic."

best,

Gerd

Thanks, Matt. That is a beautiful example, you have there. Can you post a scan of the document to see, if its filled? Especially the case is very nice

Gerd