Gerd Becker

Hey, what are the new members first soviet ODM?s?

Rick, do you have more of Senior Sergeant Noga's awards or docs?

Can you see, if there was another serialnumber on the usual position? And can you post a closeup of the serialnumber?

Wow, very nice. This is the first mini, i have seen of this award. Even the fullsize version is extremly rare and i have maybe seen it once or twice.

Excellent find, Wild Card

best,

Gerd

Thats a fantastic medalbar, Don Congrats to this great find

well, we did not, but it seems the first one has arrived! Welcome!

Yes, aren?t we blessed, Chris?

However, everyone, who is too lazy to look on ebay to get an idea about the price of an item, which is readily available everywhere, deserves no other treatment, sorry.

Really impressive! Great Collection Charles I also like the workers badges, especially the older ones.

Gerd

Very nice Johnsy I didn?t know, current Australian Medals are named and numbered. Future collectors will appreciate that

best regards,

Gerd

Wild Card, somehow i knew, you would come up with one of these

I think, its a very nice designed order. I like it!

Thanks a lot for the input, Paul. Unfortunately I have lost this one on ebay.

If there is anyone out there, who wants to part with one of these or knows, where one is for sale, i would appreciate, if you send me a message.

Thanks again

Gerd

Nice!

Gentlemen,

could i please have your opinion about this imperial pennant? Is it an original period example or not?

Thanks in advance for your help

regards,

Gerd

I have a question, the signature near the stamp in the order book in the first post of this thread is the same as in my two order books for medal for bravery. Why it this so?

Thats not a real signature, but a faksimile printed in the orders book.

Another terrific hard earned citation!

Absolutely!

And a great part of this group is, that its complete

Here is a summary of the information in Sharp?s OOB

417th Rifle Division

was formed together with two other units (414th and 416th RD) in spring 1942

August 1942 - 9th Army /Nothern Group of Caucasus Front

Begin 1943 - shifted to 58th Army / North Caucasus Front

May 1943 - 37th Army / North Caucasus Front

July 1943 - reserves North Caucasus Front and then moved to South Front

September 1943 - 63rd Rifle Corps/44th Army/ South Front

November 1943 - back in Front reserves

February 1944 - 63rd Rifle Corps/51st Army/4th Ukrainan Front , took part in the Crimean Operation in April-May 1944 in this formation

After the clearing of the Crimea back into STAVKA reserves and shipped north

late June 1944 - 51st Army was assigned to the 1st Baltic Front

March 1945 it became part of the Kurland Group on the Baltic coast, where it ended the war

Info taken from "Red Swarm" Soviet OOB of World War II by Charles C. Sharp

Excellent! Congrats and well done

Peter,

you should ask Dave B. he knows a lot about these and as far as i know, he collects sweetheart wings.

I have seen at least one similar one like yours and its one of the nice ones

Gerd

Any thoughts? I doubt any research will ever be possible, but it won't stop me from asking (once the pipeline begins to clear ).

Ed, i know for sure, research on unnumbered Medals for Valor and for Military Merit is possible

Nice group!!!

Ed, i am happy, that you bought this amazing piece. Congratulations

Bob, who is the famous soviet on the picture right in the middle`?

Slava,

lets wait and see, if the prices really can keep up this level. They probably will, but you never know. And yes, there are different groups of collectors. With my financial means i can buy small groups and a few low-end orders, but if an OGPW 2nd class costs 350 Dollar and a simple Red Star goes for 75 Dollar, then we are not far from the point, when collectors like me are only able to collect Jubilee Medals or a Campaign Medal once in a while. You can imagine, how many will be very unhappy with that and change the collection field. I have myself often thought about to stop with soviet, although i am able to spend 300-400 Dollar a month for the collection and i don?t consider that sparse and i know a lot of other collectors who think like me and have similar budgets or less.

Christian, if they like it in Kitzb?hel, then they want to spend more time there.

Its simple: More nights in Kitzb?hel = Less Glory Trios

regards,

Gerd

Lovely display, Eric. I think, i want such descriptions on mine too.

Great info, Rick. I have some doubts about some of mine. Which one would you consider questionable? All of the black ones?

Slava,

you do collect these and know probably more than me about them, but i just can?t see 15.000 Dollar for a Glory Trio, at least not yet and definately not from collector to collector (Remember the last two Trios, Dave tried to sell?).

However, with prices increases like this (especially also for the COMMON stuff) the circle of soviet collectors will be very small soon and it will be hard to move anything soviet. Another American dealer told me, he lost a lot of customers already due to the high prices. So you probably have to be very lucky to find someone, who buys your Glory Trio in 2050 for the asking price of 125.000 Dollar then, if the prices continue to raise like the last three years...

regards,

Gerd

I wonder, if one of the Glory-trio owners out there really thinks, he will be able to sell his Trio for nearly the same price. And btw, that something dissappeares on CollectRussia does not automatically mean, its sold. There are pieces on conseignment and are withdrawn without being sold.

I don?t see the purpose of this thread, honestly. Do you guys really think, your stuff is worth the same now? Who is able and more important willing to spend 15.000 Dollar on a Glory Trio? Not me, even if i had the money. I believe, there are just a handful of collectors, who would do that. Sure, there are the russians, but what, if they are tired of the this old stuff? I have heard Villas in Kitzb?hel are the new hit for rich russians.

You can take this as the whining of a poor collector, but i really think, you guys are dreaming, if you think, you can transer the CollectRussia price-level to your collection.

Just my two euro-cents...

Hi Eric,

yes, thats the typical style of the GPW area and early post-war. This one looks okay to me, i hope, Rick will confirm.

I have a few of them too.

Isn?t it likely that this is just a variation? The darker blue to distinguish it from the other grades?

However, nice one and quite unusual