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Hello gents, I was very fortunate last week to be able to aquire the bordjacke belonging to Herbert Kuhn who I believe was the 1st officer on U-331 at the time of the sinking of HMS Barham on 25th November 1941,some of you might recognise it as it used to reside in Michels collection.Apart from the fact that I was delighted to pick up a bordjacke at all,the fact that it belonged to an officer from this particular U-boat had a lot of significance for me as my father was on the Barham when she was torpedoed by U-331.As well as pictures of the Bordjacke I thought you might like to see some mementos kept by my family regarding this incident.I hope its appropriate to post them in this KM forum,if not perhaps a moderator could remove them,many thanks, Paul

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Hello guys, a few recent arrivals, the dog tag is attributed to a machinist on U-978.

Thanks for the reply Gordon,Its certainly a well made badge other then the small marks on the back.Shame about the eagle though,the Zimmerman style is much nicer to look at.Cheers, Paul

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I recently obtained this badge and I'm not quite comfortable with it.Its the first time I've held a Tombac Scwerin in hand But it doesn't seem right.At the 3 O'clock position on the wreath at the rear of the badge and to the left rear of the flag on the hull of the u-boat there appears to be cast marks.Any help and opinions appreciated,Cheers, Paul

Thanks Gordon for the comments on the Schott badge,I've had it a while and am glad its a good 'un.There are a few other characteristics in the maker mark that match as well which is pleasing.Cheers, Paul

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Cheers again Gordon,while we're on the subject of striations,does this Schott look ok to you?

Thanks for posting the phots Rick,it seems to me that my badge is definately S&L,and I agree,it would be nice to see comparisons between the 30s and 50s/60s badges.Mike thanks for that informed post.I see what you mean about the hardware,I've had a real good look at the back of the badge and it seems as though the finish on the pin etc is original and fits in with the rest of the badge so I don't think its been replaced.The pin/hinge assembly appears on both pre and post WW2 badges so its a little hard to judge the period of manufacture purely by that alone.It is a nicely finished badge and I'm inclined to keep hold of it at the moment until I can gain further info regarding S&L badges.Thanks for all the input guys its really appreciated,if anyone else can throw light on this particular make of badge I'd be obliged, Paul

Thanks for the reply Gordon,the front of the badge was causing some concern and the back looked kind of 'machined' so I think I'll pass on this one.Anyone out there with an original they'ed like to part with drop me a line,all the best, Paul

Thanks for the comments Rick and Mike,though I'm a little bit torn now as to what to think.Mike,the catch looks as though it is original to the badge,no repairs.All the hardware,pin,hinge and catch originally had gold paint or gilt on them.Most of this has now worn off the pin and catch revealing white metal.Whats the consensus then guys,is this pre or post WW2,and is there a sure way of knowing?Any help with this one will be greatly appreciated, Paul

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I believe this hollow back badge badge is made by Steinhauer and Luck due to the die characteristics and pin/hinge set up.I know they made these badges in the 1930s but also that they continued after ww2 and possibly up to the present date? Is there a way of telling in what period an S&L badge such as this was made?Any opinions much appreciated, Paul

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