Jerry B

Better detail pictures would allow informed comments to be made concerning its date etc. Interior images of both Bonnet and tunic might help, traces of any labels or inkstamps for instance. If pre 1914 the tunic should have a paper label or signs where it once was, similar to this from a RWF example in my collection.

That info pretty much seals it as faked, I think.

Sadly no doubt about it at all.

The fabric label was not introduced until some time in the 1920's and in this case post 1922, probably dated 1940's (1945?) and someone has modified it to try and read 1915. The seller or some previous owner needs a slap if you ask me for trying to fake this.

A very nice and scarce cap. Congratulations. Thanks for showing it.

Thanks Bob, high praise coming from you.

And the stripes look to be the wrong pattern for WWI.

Not to mention the ribbons are in reverse order.

Indeed, it also only has one pleat below the collar as well as looking brand new. As far as the latter goes, they can look good for their age, but not brand new from this date I think.

From these pics it is either the post 1922 version or a copy and It would help to see the interior.

It might be one of the fusiler regiments perhaps, though nothing else that looks like a spade springs to mind.

Nice find, Gerry! Thanks for sharing it.

Thanks Peter, good to see it is appreciated by someone other than me.

Vaguely resembles the collar badges worn by Royal Engineers or Royal Artillery.

this one is said to be 68 pattern dpm

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ORIGINAL-1968-70-DPM-68-COMBAT-JACKET-SMOCK-FALKLANDS-WAR-ERA-SIZE-4-PARA-USED-/321472724334?pt=UK_Collectables_Militaria_LE&hash=item4ad9447d6e

a fairly recent addiiton to my collection, OR's undress cap dated 1909 and unit marked to the 2nd Bn Monmouthshire regiment. A good early example with a leather peak, not often seen for an OR to any regiment from this period I think. In good condition apart from the chinstrap and still with its original brass badge. The battalion was formed in 1907, only two years before this cap was issued to them.

70's to 90's ish dpm camo jacket, the sort of thing you used to see in every army and navy stores a few years back.

An image of one in use mounted to the upper wing. The information and the picture were posted by Martin W.

Very nice cap Oli and with an interesting history.

Posted on another forum.

Thornton-Pickard were formed in 1888 and produced photoraphic equipment up to 1940 when the company ceased to exist.

This piece is the Thorton-Pickard Mk III Hythe Machine Gun Camera,circa 1915.

The camera was used by the RFC for aircraft gunnery training.The camera was mounted onto an aircraft and instead of shooting bullets it took pictures and was used to train pilots in air-to-air combat.

The camera was the same size as a Lewis gun and when the trainee "fired" the gun camera a cross-hair was printed onto the image showing how accurate his aim had been.

The camera took 16 frames on 120mm roll film,had an f8-300mm lens and was named "Hythe" after the gunnery school in Kent.

The camera's were sold commercially after the war.

Jerry,

I know its nothing special but maybe you have something (German) you could swap if you want it?

It's not my bag, the bloke threw it in with the EK2.

Jock

I'll have a look Jock, I have some German items in my collection, in fact most will be for sale soon.

Jerry - good plastic badges from the WW2 period are now very collectable. I have found that very often the Crown

is mounted separately above the Signals badge. Mervyn

Indeed Mervyn, I have a few of them, some are quite rare and fetch silly money these days.

Guys,

A cap badge for the corps of signals.

jock

Very nice pre 1953 OR's bimetal. My Father was in the royal Sigs during the 30's to 50's and I also had uncles who served with them well into the 70's.

I have my fathers cap badge from WWII, the plastic economy version, so perhaps he had more than one as he would have had one like that you have shown pre war and probably post war as well.

The badge is wrong as the shako if British army would be much earlier than the 2nd Boer war, condition is poor and it is obviously messed with.

The WWII history of the 2nd BN the Welch Regiment from their regimental history (as found in the link posted previously).

Very nice example Jerry - and it is nice to see the original flash. Everyone thinks these are Australian in origin - however,

as I'm sure you know, they had their origins in South Africa. Mervyn

Thanks Mervyn. I have 5 Slouch hats in my collection and do as you suggest know something of their history.

An interesting thread from the Victorian wars forum posted recently discussed this very subject.

http://www.victorianwars.com/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=9434&hilit=slouch

Maker marked Failsworth Hats Ltd, 1941 dated with an O above the WD arrow mark for 1942, with its original flash for the Welch Regiment, whose 2nd Battalion were in India until 1944 when they were sent to Burma to fight the Japanese until the end of the war. Uncommon to see such an early dated British slouch and also to see one flashed to the Welch.

http://www.royalwelsh.org.uk/downloads/E05-02-WelchR-WW2-2ndBattalion.pdf

On the Victorian wars forum it was considered to be a theatrical piece.

A very cool pick up Chris, an AB64 I assume, I have a few from earlier and later periods, but not a WWI example yet. What else does it contain?