Jerry B

3 hours ago, BlackWatch said:

So many lovely side caps and glengarries. Mike you have some great side caps, I also like the Pictou Highlanders glengarry. Jerry, what a nice looking side cap, I love it. 

thanks BW.

Another of mine, Victorian officer of the Welsh regiment volunteer battalions glengarry.

One of mine, South Lancs, Prince of Wales Vols.

 

Jerry, I really like that WWI arm band!  I've not seen the button style fastening before and may use it on the next one I make up for my re-enactment kit.  Could be earlier, too, I suppose.  The 'Army Medical Service' is the disignation for the RAMC, dental services, and veterinary services of the Br Army, so it's not much help dating, but it certainly looks early.  By at least mid-WWI they bands were issued with a safety pin, no buttons or buckles.

Peter,

most of the WWI examples I have seen have a white plastic looking buttons, this is the only one I have seen with the metal buttons and also it came out of a skip with other later Victorian/Edwardian items which perhaps makes it a bit earlier than the others I have seen.

I also have a WWII Royal Army Medical Corp BD blouse with original insignia.  It is a Canadian made example dated to early 1945 with RAMC titles and London District divisional cloth patches.

I am not a medical collector but I do have this C. WWI or perhaps slightly earlier British armband with red cross and Army Medical Service inkstamp

The two mess jackets I own both have shoulder straps fitted, other than that I cannot add anything to the discussion.  Perhaps a school army cadet uniform rather than military college.

I also have a unknown pillbox perhaps form a similar source or maybe a band in the case of the one I have.

6 hours ago, Michael Johnson said:

The Lincolnshire Regiment was in Bermuda in 1914, so could be older. I think by 1943 the helmet flash would have been obsolete. 

except the dome vent and liner suspension was introduced c.1930 and the foil lining was used in 1942/3. There was an earlier period when the foil was used but not in conjunction with the vent and liner of these types.

it might have been pimped.

c. 1942/43. No idea on value.

On ‎19‎/‎03‎/‎2017 at 19:23, leigh kitchen said:

A "typo" there Jerry - RASC rather than RCT for a 1950's cap - RCT formed 1965, they wore the RASC cap minus the white piping around the lower edge of the headband.

indeed Leigh, rasc as you say. I have a 1965 dated example with rasc piping but rcot buttons and badge as they became the latter in 65. I also have a later rcot fs cap with golden yellow piping.

An old thread;

but the cap is as Clive stated a Royal Corps of Transport forage cap with incorrect Royal Engineers badge added to it.  

The makers mark is Herbert Johnson and is by appointment to the late King George VI so dates to between 1953  and a few years when the royal warrant was changed to by appointment to the Queen (QEII).

truly a stunning and historical item of headgear. I think in the end it is hard not to see this as an extensively restored original.

I dread to wonder how much one of these costs to buy and how much the restoration cost.

thanks for sharing it and all the information and pictures.

I have a few more slouch hats and also a Gurkha bush hat and a NZ Forces Lemon Squeezer.

I ummed and ahed over that Welch slouch hat for a long times and almost hit the buy button...

I was tempted to buy the other Welch example for a couple of years but never did.  I have not looked at it for a while as it was still for sale last time I looked. I think it was an officers example because of the badge.  Other than that I think they would be the same as OR's versions, from what I have seen.

18 hours ago, Flasheart said:

no opinions at all?

Way too early a date item for me to say anymore than it looks good, but whether it is an original or a movie prop etc.... I could not say.

I have a few WWII British Slouch Hats (as well as Aussie examples) and also post war versions so always try and find a date on them if you can.

Many you see have had their badges removed, which is a real shame but sometimes the owner kept the badges before parting with the hat, though others will have been stripped by badge collectors.  The British also sometimes used Aussie or South African made examples, one of the former of which I have which has sadly had its badges removed.

This forum is big for camo collectors including dpm.

http://iacmc.forumotion.com/

As you suspected, a date of 1964 would make sense.

58 pattern webbing and it does appear to be compass pouch.

http://www.karkeeweb.com/patterns/1958/components/equipment/equipment_other_carriers.html

I also think it does bear a striking resemblance to the silver war badge.

perhaps showing just the blown up badge might help us help you?

I notice this badge has now been asked about on the British badges forum, certainly some good points raised there,

A better pic of the front would help?

Is it two badges joined together?  What size is it?, what metals is it made of, all brass or brass and white metal?

Not a badge I instantly recognise.

The belgians quite often used brown liners, but it could be Greek

All officer cap badges were private purchase made by a tailor or their suppliers.  The badge looks fine to me and appears to be a period original.

The maker of the helmet shell is Rubbery Owen & Company.  The liner is probably post war Belgian, and I have no idea on the chin strap, but I assume it went in with the liner.