Ulsterman

wow!

This might well be a "fake" made for the pre 1989 days, when there was a small, but very expensive russian/Soviet collecting market. Some of these were made in the UK and sold by dealers who also specialized in TR items.

"Antique Arms and militeria" I believe had a small article on these @ 1976 or so and Wallis and Wallis auctions also noted "cast" modern Soviet awards.

.....a tray? a tray?

.....a TRAY???!!!! of partisan badges?

was this at the museum?

Ulsterman,

That was an interesting article that you posted. I had posted another article on the same badges but not in that depth. I spent close to two hours with the present curator of Numismatics and Medals at the Hungarian Military Museum yesterday (14 Feb.). To say the least it was an interesting and enlightening visit. We were allowed to take photographs of some of the badges shown in the article with the express agreement that we use them only for our own research and not publish them on the internet or in any other form. This is not the forum to post information on WWII badges so I will not update the article here. Perhaps it would be a good idea to post it on the WWII forum and update the article there. There is new information to add on badges in the inventory of the museum. Before I do that though, I will wait until after my next visit on the 28th of Feb. The museum is only available to researchers on Wednesdays so we have to be patient!!!!!

Regards,

Gordon

Hi Gordon:

Just saw this.

Interesting is right-especially as it demonstrates that there are well made badges coming out of Hungary and that this skill level is involved in making fakes for easy cash-the faking virus grows.

I am certain that Communist era Orders are probably being made-or at least the warehouses are being emptied. it's only a a matter of time before the rarer stuff is faked-if not already. I know I'd look very,very hard at any International Brigade medals out there.

Or even our very own thread on Syrian medals: http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=14267

Doh! ( Voce: Homer Simpson)

Ah- cool, I wondered what those were. Of course, if i read ed's site more often i would know I suppose.

Established in 1982 and awarded until the fall of the very nasty Derg regime in 1991-and maybe until 1998 when a new proclamation was issued.

The center has a glass heart.

From a very bloody regime and given for wounds in some very sad little wars.

not to brag but I got to examine one today - they are imperial quality with communist motiff's - what more can you ask for - also but I got to examuine #1 of the Partisan Badge....

#1!!!!

Tell me more-who, how, what!?

by the way-is this a badge, or merely a lapel pin?

wow! That enamel work is superb.

Well, the place names are all there and you can look up his regiments' travels on the net. Also, did he survive the war? I can not find his name in the grave site, but i am not as skilled there as otheres here are.

Yeah- I am wrestling with hungarian as well. "Munka" is worker...so "el-munkas"...?

The commanding Hauptmann also received the RAO, as well as the sword.

yeah-you don't often see the Crusade medals' bar mentioned. This is a great Army group South piece.

Wow!!! The last one is fantastic! "Hungarian worker"-is that how the bar is translated? I haven't seen that banner before-must be really early.

I like the red cross too.

Rick:

Mr. Kelly of Massachusetts is now (and has been) making big bars-with your favorite minis hanging down. He has the pieces made by a local modeler. He is also doing medal bars-some obvious-others not so much. The stitching and brand new red felt backing are key, because a few replacement medals and a few hours in weak tea and you'd have a $300 bar easy.

He gave me quite a comprehensive lesson on how he does it last month-and told me who he has sold some to round your way.

No idea-but they used a similar design for their Hungarian international Brigade veteran's medal about the same time.

That 1st class is awesome!

by the way: for you guys "im feld"

http://www.internationalmilitaria.com/arti...aratrooper.html

Ask Rick:

He'll show up in the states Adj Generals' Report.

wow!!!

Doh!

Never mind, it is Czech.

by the way-do you know what this is ?

I thought it was Workers' Guard, but maybe not.

Hunyadi-

Sounds like a neat, concise article subject to me-can you find a photo of the award?

Gordon-if you need my little badge I'll send it to you-I'll happily trade for something else (like a fire volunteer medal etc.).

I'm sure the KISZ, with over 800,000 members in 1981 , must have resource materials littering the countryside the same way old Boy scout handbooks clutter flea markets over here.

Thanks Ed! Your efforts are appreciated!

Perhaps someone more savvy can lift better images from the t.v. program.

Nice!

So the Killian badge was awarded 1957-89? Was it commonly awarded?

What was the criteria: 100 push ups, sit ups and a 6 minute mile or something?

I went to a fair nearby and picked up a few hungarian items for almost nothing -8 Euros got me a killian badge, a brigade badge (bronze), academy badge and workers' militia badge. The man selling the stuff had piles of old Warsaw bloc stuff in a bucket-including a lot of Cuban and Albanian (which i did not buy as I had blown my extra walking about cash on "exotic" ribbon bars a few tables before).

I did get this one below though-seems quasi official to me, some sort of commemorative or "I met my 5 year plan goals" or "Communist Youth 5 years service" award..

nice!

OoV -

Your example is the only one to exist - there was a push in the mid 60's to early 70's to have all sorts of badges for different professions in the serivces. The borderguard one you have is for someone who was a squad to company leader of a border region. (depending on the size and threat of unwanted folks coming into the country).

The box you have for the 800 hour service medal is a late 70's to late 80's version. Wood and paper boxes were too costly to make so the injected mold plastic cases became the norm during this time.

Nice start to your collection - I dont even have an 800 hour medal

(I am stealing your photo gordon!!!)- but here is an example of all the badges they made for the army alone for wear on the dress tunic

what are the badges in the middle row-the ones that look like cap badges?