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Stogieman is 100% correct-as usual. I'd bet on an HKx being part of the bar.
However, I have a photo of a Landwehr Lt. in 1916 wearing an 1871 medal and centennial ribbon bar with a 1914 in the buttohole. Some kind person wrote along the side who he was and which regiment he served in in 1870 in old style Sutterlein.
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Hmmmmm....this name rings a bell.
Out as a Hauptman? characterized as Major in 1919? Recalled in 1935 as an OberstLt?
Try the Axis biography forum. I thing he'll show up.
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The second doc. seems to be the official "War Ministry in Finland: medals department" certificate for the finnish medal (Scheinen are still obtained-often with great effort-in German universities to demonstrate that one has actually taken a class towards a diploma).
The last doc is a demob certificate allowing your man to wear the uniform of the Uhlans as well as retain the official title of "Lieutenant". Similar things occur/ed in the British army. Stan Beeby (see my moniker below) was allowed the (Character) " title of Captain" after he was demobbed in 1948. His wife used to refer to him jokingly as "Captain Stanley", although he was really only a Lt. in the Ghurkas from 1944-48.
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As in the artillery genius Bruchmuler?
Nice photo.
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Hyr. Soron? Note you can see the windows in his goggles.
NICE NICE NICE 1919 IR Lt's picture Robert-very nice stuff.
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I vote BMVKx as well-but can your enlarge the buttons (inc. collar) and the cockade on the hat? The coat buttons to me look like crowns.
Looks like a higher NCO's rank button on the collar to me as well.
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Looks as if he was titchey as well- 5 ft. 3" in boots -he was also in Rumainia at one point ?
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There is tentztive i.d. of this badge: the Iran/Iraq war victory badge. I add the photo before it evaporates for future thread reference.
Have you heard any more?
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Good site.
I have been printing off medal bars and photos also for 7 years off ebay and other sites and have over 300 pages now of references.
It is interesting to track prices and where some medal bars wandered to. It has taken a lot of printer ink though.
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Great thread! Perhaps one day we can all meet there.
Ed-were you at Woodstock perchance?
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Nice ones. # 11, 12 and #19 are my favorites.
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Are the last two a Luitpold and an officers LS cross?
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I would assume it was an award error-the Z. was given to some sort of advisor for non-combat advising: telephone establishments etc. etc.
There was a doc. group @ 6 months ago that Detlev sold (along with photos, Wehrpass etc. to a Bavarian Gefreiter (1914-18) who worked his way up to Oberst in a Nachrichten unit in 1945 and who had Croation medals-and I believe the Z was a peacetime version (Fuzzy memory here).
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standard Baden loop.
I am convinced now after microscopic scrutiny that it once had silver wash.
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I've seen bronze ones, real Silver ones, silver wash over cruddy war metal, real Gold, silver gilt, bronze gilt. What's on the back "Dem verdienst"?
"Fur veridenst"
I assumed it was the civil version of the medal-but do not find it listed in any of my medal lists.
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My scanner imploded today-so after visiting the electronics store I'll post pictures... but has anyone ever seen a Bronze (d)/ copper version of the Baden service medal (the kind with Frederick on it that was awarded commonly to all and sundry enlisted Baden ww1 soldiers)? I bought one recently that looks as of it is was metal that has been bronzed or gilded with copper. Unusual-if not bizarre.
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Hi Tom, I think someone got into a "stash" of these recently. Although the others I have seen had smaller rings. All seem to be one-piece, non-magnetic. I initially was unsure as to age, but cannot argue them into the "new" category. The quality has just been too good.
There are some superb 1914 EK2 repros made in Spain that are @15-20 years old. They came out before the infamous "666" EK2s, but were sold by the same source.
There are also similar one piece "shiny" non-magnetic EK2s made in the late 1950s-1960s for the collector's market and as legitimate "1957" variety EKs. Jamie Cross had some of these @ 10 years ago and indeed, sold me a Bavarian Gefrieters' bar with one on it. They are considered rare.
The difference between the 2 types is the quality of metal-and to some degree the workmanship. The Spanish ones have a bendable rim and the crown is different.
Given there were @ 7 MILLION 1914 EK2s legitimately made/awarded (@5 million awarded-many replacements) I am not enamored with the one-piece variety. I personally do not consider them legitimate as there were very few WW1 vets ordering medal bars in the 1960s-1970s, but lots and lots of collectors.
As an aside-the second EK2 I bought was one of these "1957" types; I bought it in London in 1974 for 50p and even then fakery was rampant.
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Isn't it a frack type bar?
The old officer's LS medals used to come after orders, but before campaign medals.
Professional Baden NCO who got a government job and was recalled as a bumped up/ out as a Lt dR type?
I'd bet he was in the railroads...or post office.
What sayeth Rick R?
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The German army reorganized formally in 1917. THE OKH lowered the formal strenghth of battalions from 919 to 650 as of the Summer of 1917-replacing troops with machine gun sections (3 for each company). This reduction affected privates and gefreiters only-not other Unterofficers or officers.
A platoon in an "average" infantry regiment in 1917-1918 would have had at the very most 60 men, including officers (1-2) and NCOs (7-8).
The OKH reorganizatoon allowed more formal NCOs and officers allowed per company than the 1914 establishments.
Photos of platoons in the field however, clearly show that there were about 35-40 per Platoon and sometimes even fewer.
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I have the same card. It was very popular @1916-18.
He is a minor Royal- Duke Wilhelm Ernst of Saxe Weimar.
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Souval made Bulgarian war medals-but I doubt many. As far as I know the Bulgarian medal has not been faked -yet.
You outbid me on that bar-well done.
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A bar with the same medals, but not in quite as nice condition, went on ebay 2 months ago for 105 Euros.
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Is there an elephant in the room? Where? There!
I think it is a fake.
Note the rare pre-war UberNCO MVO without swords and the fire Long service award and the extra XII LS thrown in-along with a noncombat Ludwig cross (service at home 1916+-although that was ignored) along with the usualy combat awarded MVK3x with crown a Brunswick noncombat medal?
Did Bavarians get the Centennial?
Without the fat catch on the back and the fire award and the extra long service medal I would consider it maybe possible as a senior Bavarian NCO's bar-somebody who was on a Bavarian Division staff or somesuch.
I assume the medal on the end is a regimental commemorative-added to sweeten the deal -usually it's a foreign award.
And honestly, i don't think I have ever seen a Bavarian NCO with an Oldenburg medal-lots of North germans, but few southern ones.
Made in Bavaria perhaps-or Ohio?
Oh-I see Rick has already marked up the thread. Oh well-typed too slow.
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Cambridgeshire Regiment
in Great Britain: Militaria: Badges, Uniforms & Equipment
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I just learned something. My Uncle was in the Cambs. Regt.-died in Burma in 1944. My Nan never got over it.
I was in the TA with the Anglians back in 1987- I never knew about a museum. I used to climb up Castle Hill as a nipper too.