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_{Wonderful Collection. Hope tha tyou find some Feldgrau tunics in the future. You have a collection that is outstanding}

I have been there myself. Did you go into the local town. Most of the buildings look like the original village with some 21st century updates. Don't know if you knew, but the POW Camp Commanding officer, Maj Wurtz, recieved the Confederate Medal of Honor from the Daughters of the American Confederacy many years later. I believe in the local museum is the actual medal.

Hardy, Great Story. Are you now the owner of this, or did you get ahold of the family members. The pictures and service record are amazing. Thanks for sharing.

I believe that there is also a Gefreiter who was awarded both a EKI and EKII. I remember reading about him at one time. Honestly, there was some hard fighting, but to say, his officers took care of him. Lets not forget that.

I was watching this also. I figured that it was too good to be true. Not an expert by far, but the ribbons seemed to not be folded in good order. Any opinions on the back. Something did not feel right about it, but I couldn't pinpoint it.

Very interesting combination. Congrats.

Wow, that is amazing. Where is the location?

_{Great find. I think it is always neat to find a feldspangen with that matches a medal bar.}

Very nice indeed.

This is both a great story and sad one. I will keep on the look out for the ribbon bars. I hope that one day your are reconnected with your ancestors items.

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_{Great piece Chris.}

This is an interesting posting. Here is a picture that I may have used here before of my Great Uncle.

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Can anyone identify this unit? I am assuming a pre-war Gefreiter?

Blow up of Unit

Can anyone provide any information of the unit?

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Thanks guys.

very nice. I bet this pickelhaube was a hard one to find.

Here are pictures of the ribbon bar front and back.

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Zipse, Rudolf LtdR, BV3, BZ3bX. That is all I have listed.

After looking a little harder here is what I have. I am not for sure what the "BV3" is? Do you have a date for that award and possible a picture?

EKII- 17.10.14

BZ3bX- 1.10.14

MKFO- 16.12.15

Ranks held are as follows:

Unteroffizier- 30.9.07

???- 28.4.08

Lt.dR- 16.11.10

Oblt- 27.4.16

Civlian life post war he was a doctor of some sort.

All in all, I have about 40 pages of documents and his ribbon bar. What I am confused with is him not having a EKI with such a high level Baden award.

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Yes, I figured something like that. I guess sometimes it was being in the right place at the right time. I just wondered how some Germans recieved the Galopi Star and other's didn't.

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OBlt d. R Zipse

40th Fusilier Regiment "Prince Karl-Anton von Hohenzollern" (Füsilier-Regiment Fürst Karl-Anton von Hohenzollern (Hohenzollernsches) Nr. 40)

I am wondering if anyone has the complete listing of his awards? I have a copy of his records from Germany, but they seem to not have everything, plus I cannot translate everything. His ribbon bar has a EKII, Militär Karl Friedrich Verdienst Order (red and yellow ribbon with green wreath on the ribbon, Zahringer Lowe Ribbon w. swords. There are some awards listed on his stammrollen, but I don't see the EKII, EKI. There are two other awards that I cannot translate.

There are some dates for the awards listed: 17.10.14; 1.10.14 (Zahringer Lowe[ don't know what class]; and 16.12.15.

If anyone can help, it would be appreciated. If anyone has any pictures, that would be great too. I can scan whatever is needed and post a picture of the ribbon bar.

Thanks

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Does anyone know is there were any basic awards besides Prussian ones (ie: Iron Crosses and such) issued to members who served on the Eastern Front (Russia and Romania) during the First World War?

I am reading a great book right now called The Fourth Horseman. It mentioned that he earned some awards during the First World War for his Service to Germany or one can say his Disservice to the United States, being an American Born Citizen. There are also rumors he even held a rank in the German Medical Corps.

I am just interested if anyone knows any information about him not coverend in the Book.

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ostprussenmann: I did not intend my post to be rude, but rather meant to indicate my amazement with your comment. If you had indicated that the arms of the two crosses were similar, I would have agreed with you (and even mentioned it in my post), but you said that "The US Legion of Merit is almost an exact copy of the French Legion de' Honor." That is a completely different statement and indicates much more than that the arms of the cross are similar or that Colonel Heard based his design on the Legion of Honor. No offense meant, Gunner 1

Consider the issue over.

ostprussenmann wrote: "The US Legion of Merit is almost an exact copy of the French Legion de' Honor."

You have to be kidding. The only similarity between the two awards is the five-armed star, which is also found in the Belgian Order of the Crown, the Brazilian Order of the Southern Cross and other foreign orders. Other than that there is nothing else in the design that is similar! That is like saying that the Legion of Honor and the Belgian Order of Leopold are almost exact copies of each other because they both have oak and laurel wreaths between the arms of the cross. Gunner 1

He there high speed, make sure you know your history before you make a rude comment as you have. Either that or don't take my comment as literally as you have taken it; all I was saying is there is a concidence as there are with the BSM and above medal.

"The resemblance is no coincidence. When U.S. Army Colonel Robert T. Heard created the original design for the Legion of Merit in 1940, he based it on the French medal because the new award was to recognize foreign military officers—just as the Legion of Honor had been awarded to so many American servicemen in World War I. The badge of both decorations is based on a five-armed enameled cross, each arm having two points tipped with a ball."

Yes, I read this as well- "Despite its physical similarity to the Legion of Merit, the French Legion of Honor is a significantly different decoration."

Here is the link for reference: http://www.historyne...on-of-honor.htm

What counties award is this one? Honestly the the US could have stolen the design from another country. The US Legion of Merit is almost an exact copy of the French Legion de' Honor.

That is most interesting medal bar. I didn't even know that Germany had a POW Medal. Any paperwork with it? Very nice indeed.