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Hi Guys,

I have been watching the recent 'rise' in L/64 marked Paras. And there are 'tons' available, which makes me question their authenticity.

Now, an L/64 marked P/O has surfaced at the SOS, and I just picked up an L/64 Pilot. I am posting images of the Pilot for opinions. Yea, the rivets are funcky, I know. But keep in mind, it was most likely 1945. Opinions are welcome.

Thanks,

Mark

Hi Eric,

I'm sure someone will provide the exact translation, but I believe it is indicitive of a corporation, or company licensing. Business related.

Regards,

Mark

But was this makermark part of the die, or hand applied?

I have noticed that some of the very first BSWs with the full spelled out name differ. Some include the 'AG' and some do not?

BRUDERSCHNEIDERAGWIEN

BRUDERSCHNEIDERWIEN

Mark

It sure looks like a bad casting, with some type of makermark partially applied. Maybe A/S in a triangle?

Look at all the 'pock' marks in the reverse.

Regards,

Mark

John,

The three original Luft mit Hunde photos I have are misplaced. I pissed! I have three other copies with dogs. One is SS, one is heer, and one is NSDAP. I hate to change the slant of the thread!

Get that scanner warmed up, Mark.

Sorry,

ADD. Automatic Digital Difficulty.

Prosper,

My lack of 'reply' in no way reflects my lack of interest. It is just taking me a while to absorb all the info, which is a new endeavour from collecting badges. Or is it.

Just based on the fact that these two FSS were from the same jump class and with only one FSS between them, shouldn't they, for all intents and purposes, be the same? Just like a run of a particular style badge, in a specific time frame, shouldn't they show the same bold characteristics. But right off the bat, these do not. I see a different Nummr style entry, different ink on the stamp, different details filled in, (as mentioned) no rune key on the typewriter, weak key character imprint from the ribbon,......etc. And I venture to say there is more you could identify.

I'm a novice on these too, but it would take a convincing explanation to side me over. And I for one remember how you've always felt about 'variations'.

Am I wrong!

Mark

Prosper,

I had pretty much given up on a reply. And low and behold, one of the (probably) handfull of people knowledgable on the subject replied! Thanks.

I would think that Docs and Photos of these guys are rare little pieces?

Regards,

Mark

They're getting better!

Mark

John,

'Mans's Best friend"! Great shots. I maybe have one or two photos to scan at home.

Regards,

Mark

Paul,

Good question. The Retired Pilot Badges are scarce. The award docs are even more scarce. It seems similar to the Condor Legion Tank badge. There are few original examples and not much period material to go on. The docs for the same..... how many do we know of? 2 or 3!

Regards,

Mark

I wonder why they are so rare... there were a lot of former fliers who could have worn it?

Francois,

You came out from winter hibernation to say hello! You knew I would see this Badge of My Dreams, and 'feel the pain'.

Thanks, buddy. Now THAT Badge is textbook!

Best Regards,

One of the Coca-Cola Gang

All,

I've seen discussions about this small unit, but can't remember where. Can anyone provide Unit information? The word is that these SS were wearing Para Badges. A Berlin detachment?

Thanks,

Mark

Forget it Jody,

The Doc would have to be increased in size so much that the quality would go to crap. Docs for these badges are "rare as hen's teeth".

Mark

Hi Mark,

It is really just pictures. I will try to scan it, but it may not turn out.

Regards,

Jody

Hi Jody,

How long is the Article. Any chance you could scan that Doc image? Don't know if it's possible... Would it create any legal problems to post.

Appreciate the interest in this badge. I should have picked up the one Jason was selling. I knew I'd regret it later.

Regards,

Mark

Hi Mark,

The only one I have seen is in Identifying Authentic German WWII Military Items (Collector's Guide Volume III) by Robert McCarthy (1981).

On pages 22-23 Mr. McCarthy shows two versions of the badge, an original case and an award document dated 1. November 1943.

Regards,

Jody

Does anyone own any [rare] photos or Award Documents to the Flieger-Erinnerungsabzeichen. I've only seen one elsewhere, but I wonder if they are lurking in the collector's shadows!

Please Post!

Thanks,

Mark

Marc,

More. More. More. Love the format.

Regards,

Mark

Assmann's are more difficult to find. I know. I have been looking for an early First Style Assmann P/O with the cut-out legs for years now. Where have they all gone?

Mine in Aluminum.

Regards,

Mark

HI Guys,

I haven't done an actual A/B comparison with images, but does the obverse eagle and wreath remotely match GWL? At a quick glimpse, I thought it was a GWL with completely different reverse hardware. And the hardware is a mixture, too. It is not, say, all Juncker, or all BSW.....

Pretty damn nice finish, if not authentic.

Regards,

Mark

*** I just checked against a GWL P/O. The dies are different.

Eric,

I believe your badge to be originally made with the blitzen, but very professionally removed. Look at the talons. See how they are curved, as in clutching the blitzbundl?

Regards,

Mark