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    hunyadi

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    1. 'Your first award of the Great Patriotic War; awarded for the liberation of '******'. From your first daughter Vera, on the 30th anniversary of the award.'

      Is this how it is? I like to make things as clear as possible!!!

      I would love that award. Actually; i lost that medal at the exact time & place that you aquired it! As i am ill i cannot recall when that was!!! You really should return it to me!!! I only have 50 more years left to live. I really did lose it; you must beleive me. Give it back to me!! Etc.....

      Post a photo of your daughter... then I will beleive you. :rolleyes:

    2. Kevin -

      Dont know a while lot about the origanization. We have a thread on the membership badges here

      http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=15508

      but nothing concrete. From my own resraech the organization, though having a nice and elaborate name, was a sporting organization meant to foster physical fitness and the like. Later in the 1950's it melded in with another sports organization the 'Hungarian Army Sports Associtation'. So I would venture from the 'Freedom Fighter' name and the melding with the military sport organization - the idea was more of a para-military organization. Perhaps Zsolt could shed more light on the subject. :rolleyes:

    3. :off topic: My family fought for the King, during the English Civil War.... :rolleyes:

      Gordon.

      Interestinlgy enough so did mine - however he was captured and given the choice of an English prison or the American colonies as a slave for 12 years with the express warning that he could never return. Being a slave was not so bad - at the end of his life he owned a huge plantation in what is now Maryland.

    4. Ulstermann -

      Going off what I translated from the Blue Bible (1978) - the awarding went as follows - B) There are three requirements to attain ?Socialist Brigade? (Szocialista Brig?d) title or the ?Excellent Workers Brigade? or the ?Excellent Youth Brigade?. First all titles are given out for the exemplary accomplishments carried out during the period of one year. Secondly additional awards can only be given out after the required previous title is bestowed upon the collective. Thirdly the title must have the appropriate proof and documentation that the collective was able to exceed their yearly pledged goals. These titles do not carry any monetary award. The ?Socialist Brigade? title is given on the occasion of the first year of service. Each member of the collective is to personally receive a certificate of the title. For the second instance in which the ?Socialist Brigade? title is given, a small green wreathed badge is bestowed in three classes: gold, silver and bronze. The next highest class is awarded when the members of the collective already poses the previous grade. Proof by certificate is required for individuals to be awarded the next highest class.

      Perhaps there are others out there that can shed more light on the subject of the 'first badge' given out - as only a 'bronze' colored badge seems to have come with the green enameled wreath - if you look at the other previous posts where the badge's are silver or gold in color they do not have the green wreath. I posed the question to the director of medals at the National Musuem and showed him the regulation and he was just as confused as I was and explained it away as something that was probably called for - but never follwoed through with.

    5. Hi Bifter - I think you may be experiencing faults that happened to items in the late 1970's and into the 1980's. Generaly these were cold enamel work and the Hungarian Mint was experiencing the downfall of the Socialist economy. The other factor that I find causes such defects is actual neglect and wear. Most of the time these things were tossed into the drawer and forgotten about until the end of communism when they ended up in the trash only to be picked up by trash pickers to be resold at the flea-markets. I try to collect items from the early years when quality was much better - but even then the integral design caused many problems, take for instance the Order of Merit of the HUPR of 1949. The star has a massive convex to the star and the enamel, though of good quality is thin because of the design - wear it one the medal bar and it gets dinged around. When that happens you generaly see damage to the 5 o'clock arm of the star. Or just drop the thing once and the enamel is damaged. I have a bornze class that sat in my display case and just from the rapid change in temperature and barometric pressure - it popped a section of the enamel off!

    6. Gordon - interestingly enough these are the only ones I have found. But I dont really look for them much - it was your interest that sparked me :D . I also cant recal seeing too many of the whistles - and hardly any lanyards. I am still looking for the Kisdobos belt and the Utt?rő belt as well - If I recall there was a dagger as well? But all in all - its amazing to me that not more of these come to the market - but I can imagine that so many ended up in the landfills after 89'...

    7. Though I am not as vered in the KISZ movement as others - I was able to pick up these rather difficult to find uniforms. Its an interesting dillema as every child who wanted to go to school was required to join - so there should be a nearly unlimited supply of these - but these are the first two that I have been able to find. The nice part is that they are nearly complete. :jumping:

    8. In the last few months it has started to dry up. Charles and I used to find piles of cased and uncased lots/medals/badges etc on tables in the flea markets. Even some high end awards were available this way. Those days are gone and tables now contain few medals and most of them run of the mill stuff. It was just too good to last.

      Thats becasue we bought them all..... :rolleyes:

      But back to the musuem - here is the "tone" of some plackards which left me the with the feeling of 'look what they did to us'.

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