David Gregory

Cool,

I can't tell you much about how the watch was mounted, but the wording translates something like "The leader out of hardship".

David

And as follows without the numbers indicating the order in which they were bestowed:

Name Forename Rank Unit Date

Aberle Fritz Leutnant d. R. Land. I.R. 22 26.10.1916

Adelmann Karl Leutnant d. R. I.R. 114 14.01.1918

Alberti Wilhelm Oberst Ers. I.R. 29 15.05.1918

Allmann Carl Oberst 56 Land.I. Brig. 22.04.1918

Appenzelle Hermann Leutnant d. R. I.R. 394 20.07.1917

Arnim, von Alfred Hauptmann Leibgren. R. 109 06.11.1917

Baader Paul Major I.R. 464 02.02.1918

Baader Julius Oberleutnant Feld-Art.R. 30 03.07.1918

Bachelin Eduard Hauptmann R.I.R. 111 25.05.1917

Bader Jakob Hauptmann Feld-Art. R. 66 31.01.1918

Baeuerle Tobias Leutnant d. R. Sturmtrupp d. 8 Land. Div 08.11.1916

Barack Fritz Major I.R. 113 12.03.1915

Barth Friedrich Oberleutnant I.R. 110 28.07.1917

Barth Josef Major I.R. 30 08.02.1918

B?sch Karl Leutnant d. R. R.Feld-Art. R. 52 15.09.1917

Bassermann Heinrich Oberleutnant Feld-Art.R. 50 01.06.1918

Bauer Rudolf Hauptmann Feld-Art. R. 50 17.10.1918

Baumbach, von Oberstleutnant R.I.R. 109 02.09.1915

Beck Erich Rittmeister Gren.R.zu Pf. 3 08.08.1918

Beck Leopold Hauptmann Feld-Art. R. 287 08.11.1918

Beck, von Wolfgang Oberleutnant Feld-Art R. 14 03.03.1916

Beck, von Bruno Oberleutnant Feld-Art. R. 14 31.08.1918

Becker Felix Hauptmann I.R. 113 03.07.1918

Beczwarcowsky, von Oberst Leibgren-R. 109 04.08.1915

Behrle Lothar Hauptmann R.Feld-Art. R. 57 31.10.1917

Beier Arthur Leutnant d. L. R.I.R. 109 04.01.1917

Bender Eugen Oberstleutnant Feld-Art R. 74 04.09.1915

Bender Hans Hauptmann R.Feld-Art. R. 52 15.09.1917

Berg Ludwig Hauptmann 4. Gebirgsart.Abt. 29.08.1918

Berg Lud. Major R.Feld-Art.R. 50 06.05.1918

Berthold Richard Major I.R. 169 16.08.1917

Bismarck, Graf von August Oberstleutnant Land. I.R. 111 28.11.1916

Bitter Leutnant R.I.R. 40 23.07.1915

Bleibtreu Ernst Major R. Hus. R. 9 28.10.1916

Blittersdorff, Frhr von Major Gebirgsart. Abt. 5 11.09.1917

Block Franz Hauptmann R.I.R.109 27.12.1915

Blockner Major I.R. 97 02.12.1914

Blum Ernst Hauptmann Leibgren. R. 109 11.09.1917

Bogt Karl Hauptmann I.R. 28 25.04.1916

Bonin, von Bogislav Hauptmann Leibgren-R. 109 24.01.1916

Brandehrens, von Hermann Oberst Art-R. 50 19.06.1916

Brandt Philipp Major I.R. 470 12.11.1917

Brauch Karl Leutnant d. R. Ers.I.R. 28 19.07.1918

Braun, Ritter Edler von Oberleutnant R.I.R. 13 30.10.1914

Br?hl-Schneider Kurt Hauptmann I.R. 112 03.07.1918

Bruns Paul Hauptmann Feld-Art. R. 14 03.10.1917

Brurein Ernst Hauptmann I.R. 364 13.12.1916

Bullinger Johannes Hauptmann I.R. 112 02.06.1917

Caroli Alfred Leutnant d. R. I.R. 170 19.04.1917

Chrismar, von Ernst Oberst Feld-Art. 67 25.08.1915

Clossmann, von Hans Hauptmann Feld-Art. 103 19.04.1917

Consbruch, von Major Feld-Art. R. 76 28.12.1917

Courtin Richard Hauptmann d. R. I.R. 16 26.06.1915

D?nzer-Banotti August Oberleutnant Feld-Art.R.204 03.07.1918

Davans von Oberst R.I.R. 87 08.12.1914

Deimling, von Oberst R. Feld-Art R. 29 09.09.1914

Delhaes Alexander Hauptmann Feld-Art.R. 76 08.05.1918

Dernen Friedrich Leutnant d. R. Gren. R. 110 13.11.1916

Dierling Alexander Hauptmann I.R. 64 09.05.1916

Dohna-Schlodien, Graf zu Korvettenkapit?n 10.03.1916

Dossenbach Albert Leutnant d. R. F.A. 22 09.12.1916

Edelsheim, Frhr von Franz Oberstleutnant R.I.R. 234 03.12.1917

Eggers Hermann Hauptmann Feld-Art. R. 50 17.10.1918

Ehret Wilhelm Oberleutnant R.I.R. 249 12.10.1918

Eichhorn Eginhard Oberstleutnant Drag. R. 21 23.07.1915

Ellmer Albert Hauptmann Feld-Art. R. 76 08.11.1918

Emmerling Max Hauptmann Feld-Art R.14 06.01.1917

Engelhorn Wilhelm Major Feld-Art R. 23 22.06.1917

Ens Karl Leutnant d. R. Leibgren. R. 109 31.12.1917

Faller Heinrich Oberleutnant I.R. 169 13.12.1916

F?ssler Leutnant d. R. I.R. 170 13.07.1918

Fath Alfred Leutnant d. R. R.I.R. 238 24.11.1917

Felsche Karl Oberstleutnant R.I.R. 250 15.12.1916

Fenne Albert Leutnant R.I.R. 109 12.11.1917

Ficht Julius Leutnant d. R. Leibgren. R. 109 03.10.1917

Fieser Emil Hauptmann Feld-Art. 14 20.07.1917

Finner Theodor Major Land. I.R. 49 19.08.1915

Fischer Hermann Major I.R. 170 13.07.1918

Fitzer Eugen Hauptmann R.I.R. 249 21.02.1917

F?rster Karl Leutnant d. R. Ers.I.R. 28 17.06.1917

F?rster Eugen Major I.R. 111 12.03.1915

Forstner, Frhr von Major Leibgren-R. 109 13.06.1915

Freydorf Rudolf Major Land. I.R. 11 11.05.1918

Friedeburg, von Ludwig Oberst 50. Feld-Art Brig. 30.10.1916

Fritsche Alexander Oberleutnant Feld-Art. R. 270 02.09.1918

Fr?hlich Max Hauptmann R.Feld-Art. R. 29 04.01.1917

Frommherz Hermann Leutnant d. R. Jasta 27 17.10.1918

Fuchs Adolf Oberstleutnant I.R. 378 06.12.1917

Fuchs Oswald Leutnant d. R. Feld-Art R. 14 03.05.1918

Fust Alfred Leutnant d. R. I.R. 112 24.09.1917

Ganter Franz Leutnant d. R. R.I.R. 109 17.08.1917

G?rtner Oberst Land.I.R. 72 08.12.1914

Geiger Oskar Leutnant d. R. Sturm-Batl 1 10.04.1918

Gericke Otto Major R.Feld-Art.R.28 22.04.1918

Gl?ck Oberst I.R. 126 31.07.1915

G?bel Lorenz Major I.R. 111 14.10.1916

G?lery Ravensburg, Frhr Major I.R. 113 02.06.1917

G?ring Hermann Oberleutnant Jasta 27 11.02.1918

G?tz Arthur Leutnant d. R. M.G. Abt. 32 06.11.1918

Graf Hans Oberleutnant Gren.R. 110 03.05.1918

Grandenberger von Moisy L. Major R.I.R 110 27.12.1915

Graumann Hauptmann I.R. 97 07.05.1915

Gr?we, Edler von Hauptmann Gren. R. 110 03.03.1916

Greiff Otto Oberleutnant Feld-Art. R. 30 08.11.1918

Grohe Karl-Friedrich Major I.R. 113 13.11.1916

Gussmann Hermann Hauptmann I.R. 170 12.03.1915

Gutmann Hermann Leutnant d. R. Leibgren. R. 109 03.10.1917

Hackelsberger Albert Leutnant Drag. R. 22 26.11.1915

Haellmigk Hartwich Major I.R. 142 29.12.1917

Harlfinger Oberstleutnant I.R. 334 23.01.1918

Hartog Theodor Hauptmann Sturm.Batl.1 18.09.1918

H?ulein Oberleutnant R.I.R. 110 27.04.1918

Hausser Paul Hauptmann 3. Garde R. zu Fu? 28.07.1917

Hecht Gustav Hauptmann I.R. 336 12.10.1918

Heineccius, von Richard Hauptmann R.I.R. 250 09.02.1916

Herzberg, Graf von Kurt Major Leibgren-R. 109 12.03.1915

Heyden, von der Kurt Hauptmann Pion-Batl 14 17.02.1915

Hibschenberger Ernst Oberleutnant Gren.R. 110 03.05.1918

Hischmann Ernst Leutnant F?ss R. 40 03.10.1917

Hoefer Theodor Leutnant Gren.R. 110 03.05.1918

Hofer Adolf Oberleutnant I.R. 114 08.06.1917

Holz Friedrich Hauptmann Feld-Art. R. 50 21.03.1915

Holzing-Berstett, Frhr von Oberstleutnant 1. Garde Drag. R. 22.01.1915

H?lzlin Friedrich Leutnant I.R. 142 31.10.1917

Horn Willy Hauptmann I.R. 114 23.07.1915

Hoser, von Johann Leutnant Leibgren-R. 109 23.04.1915

H?ther Wilhelm Leutnant d. R. Gren. R. 110 07.08.1918

Iffland Adolf Major Feld-Art. R. 66 15.08.1917

Ihlenfeld, von Otto Major I.R. 170 26.09.1916

Imhoff Foh Hauptmann R.I.R. 110 06.05.1918

Jost Helmuth Leutnant d. R. I.R. 111 15.05.1918

Jumricht Wilhelm Hauptmann R.I.R. 110 02.09.1915

Jungermann Ferdinand Hauptmann I.R. 111 23.04.1915

Kachel August Major R. J?ger Batl 8 16.12.1914

Kaether Ernst Major R.I.R. 40 04.12.1916

Kaltenbach Franz Hauptmann R.I.R. 250 12.10.1918

Katz Kasimir Hauptmann Feld-Art. 14 20.07.1917

Keller Hanns Oberstleutnant I.R. 169 27.12.1915

Killinger Erich Leutnant zur See Seeflugstation Flandern I 25.01.1918

Kissel Hans Leutnant R.I.R. 142 27.04.1918

Kitzling Ernst Hauptmann R. Feld-Art. R. 29 02.09.1915

Koch Karl Leutnant d. R. I.R. 111 14.10.1916

K?ckritz Hans Leutnant d. R. Pion. Batl 14 07.08.1918

Koellreuther Otto Hauptmann Feld-Art. R. 80 02.02.1918

Koenige Heinrich Hauptmann Land. I.R. 5 23.01.1915

Kotze, von Hans-Ulrich Oberleutnant Leibgren-R. 109 23.07.1915

Krapp Hermann Hauptmann R.I.R. 77 25.01.1918

Krause Paul Oberstleutnant I.R. 185 01.10.1917

Krebs Heinrich Oberstleutnant Ers.I.R. 28 03.05.1917

Kr?ger August Oberstleutnant I.R. 170 27.12.1915

Kuenzer Hermann Hauptmann Leibgren-R. 109 12.03.1915

Kuhlmann Karl Oberstleutnant I.R. 113 12.03.1915

Kuhn Karl Hauptmann Fuss-Art. 42 31.01.1918

Kuhn Hans Leutnant d. R. I.R. 112 03.03.1916

Kummer, von K. Oberstleutnant I.R. 114 27.04.1915

K?pper Roland Hauptmann I.R. 173 23.12.1915

Lamey Hubert Oberstleutnant R.I.R. 40 08.10.1915

Lang Friedrich Major Feld-Art. 30 18.12.1917

Lange Ernst Hauptmann I.R. 113 02.06.1917

Lange Karl Hauptmann Feld-Art. R. 76 31.08.1918

L?ngle Oskar Oberleutnant I.R. 25 31.05.1917

Langsdorff, von Julius Major I.R. 184 08.03.1917

Laue Oberstleutnant R.I.R. 249 23.09.1915

Lauterschl?ger Georg Major I.R. 112 28.05.1918

Leienk?gel Philipp Hauptmann R. Feld-Art. R. 28 24.11.1917

Leiningen, Durch, F?rst zu Major ?. l. s. 1. Garde I.Bg 18.11.1914

Leist Eugen Leutnant d. R. R.I.R. 110 06.11.1918

Leist Eduard Major R.I.R. 78 03.10.1917

Lenel Paul Hauptmann I.R. 143 06.11.1918

Leonhard Bruno Hauptmann I.R. 185 04.10.1916

Ley F. Oberstleutnant R.I.R. 111 16.12.1914

Lilienhoff-Zmomitzki, von Major I.R. 169 02.09.1915

Livonius Georg Major Land. I.R. 40 09.09.1918

Loerzer Bruno Oberleutnant Jagdgeschwader 3 08.08.1918

Loes Karl Hauptmann I.R. 169 11.12.1917

Lorne, von St Ange O. Oberst I.R. 111 19.10.1915

M?der Franz Leutnant d. R. I.R. 170 02.09.1915

Markwitz Eugen Leutnant d. R. R.I.R. 109 13.08.1917

Marschak von Bachtenbrock Major Leibdrag. R. 20 23.07.1915

Mayer Karl Oberleutnant I.R. 132 14.01.1918

Mayer Guido Oberleutnant I.R. 170 26.09.1916

Mechler Anton Leutnant d. R. F?s-R. 40 13.11.1916

Meier Karl Oberleutnant Ers.I.R. 29 14.07.1917

Merk Adolf Leutnant d. L. I.R. 114 23.09.1915

Merkel Karl Leutnant d. R. Gren. R. 110 19.02.1918

Mez Moritz Hauptmann Feld-Art. R. 76 08.11.1918

Montfort Karl Leutnant d. R. I.R. 142 23.04.1915

Morlock Hauptmann R.I.R. 40 23.07.1915

Mors Franz Major Gren. R. 110 12.03.1915

M?ller Hermann Leutnant d. R. I.R. 113 03.07.1918

Nagel Karl Leutnant 2. Garde R. zu Fuss 08.08.1918

Nerger Karl Fregattenkapit?n 06.04.1918

Nicolai Eduard Leutnant d. R. Feld-Art. R. 14 24.11.1917

Nicolai Karl Oberstleutnant Feld-Art. R. 233 23.07.1915

Ostander Wilhelm Major Feld-Art. R. 15 24.03.1917

Ostrowski, von Bruno Oberst Feld-Art R. 76 28.08.1916

Paravicini Karl Hauptmann R.Feld-Art.R. 239 15.05.1918

Pattenhausen Rudolf Hauptmann Feld-Art. R. 30 23.07.1915

Pfeifer Hermann Leutnant d. R. Jasta 9 02.03.1917

Pfeil, von Oberst I.R. 168 18.12.1915

Platz Hermann Leutnant d. R. R.Feld-Art.R. 29 19.07.1918

Platz Paul Major R.I.R. 201 01.08.1917

Poseck Horst Major Feld-Art R. 14 03.05.1918

Preuschen, von Hauptmann Gren. R. 110 23.07.1915

Raderhoff Heinrich Oberleutnant d. R. R.I.R. 28 25.04.1916

Randoll Georg Leutnant d. R. I.R. 112 20.12.1917

Reichardt Ernst Leutnant Feldart. R. 30 17.02.1915

Reinicke Hermann Major F?s. R. 40 20.10.1916

Reinke Walther Hauptmann Feld-Art R. 50 26.10.1916

Renner August Hauptmann R.I.R. 272 18.08.1915

Richard Karl Hauptmann I.R. 169 17.02.1915

Richter Gustav Hauptmann R.I.R. 238 14.01.1918

Riede Hellmuth Leutnant d. R. I.R. 114 15.07.1918

Rochlitz Alban Major R. Feld-Art. R. 43 12.02.1917

Rochlitz Heinrich Oberstleutnant R.Feld-Art. R. 48 08.11.1917

Roeder von Diersburg, Frhr Hauptmann Feld-Art R. 14 19.06.1916

Rotberg, Frhr von Albert Major Gren. R. 7 24.01.1916

R?dt von Collenberg, Frhr Hauptmann R. Feld-Art R. 21 02.02.1918

R?dt von Collenberg, Frhr Oberleutnant I.R. 28 25.04.1916

R?dt von Collenberg, Frhr K. Hauptmann J?ger-Batl. 4 31.08.1918

Ruland Heinrich Hauptmann Gren. R. 110 19.06.1916

Rundstedt, von Udo Major I.R. 113 24.09.1917

Saunier Leon Hauptmann Gren.R. 110 16.12.1915

Sautier Friedrich Hauptmann Feld-Art. R. 51 06.09.1917

Schauber Ludwig Leutnant d. R. R.I.R. 65 18.01.1917

Schede Karl Hauptmann Gren. R. 110 19.02.1918

Schedl Ludwig Oberleutnant I.R. 170 13.12.1916

Scherer Eugen Major I.R. 114 19.06.1916

Scherer Gustav Major Feld-Art R. 7 11.05.1918

Scheu Allois Leutnant Land. I.R. 109 04.03.1918

Schleich Paul Hauptmann Feld-Art.R. 66 15.05.2018

Schmeickert Emil Oberleutnant I.R. 169 12.02.1917

Schmid Erwin Leutnant d. R. I.R. 20 20.01.1917

Schmidt Paul Leutnant d. R. I.R. 142 23.03.1918

Schmidt Hermann Major I.R. 114 06.11.1918

Schmutz Otto Leutnant d. R. I.R. 114 06.09.1917

Schneider Robert Leutnant d. R. Feld-Art R. 50 07.05.1916

Schofer Otto Leutnant I.R. 185 01.05.1918

Sch?nau-Wehr Eberhard Hauptmann R. Radfahrer K. 75 23.09.1915

Schroeder August Major R.I.R. 110 04.01.1917

Schvenebeck Hermann Major Land.I.R. 382 05.09.1918

Schweickhard Karl Hauptmann I.R. 113 14.06.1916

Seht, von Hanns Hauptmann I.R. 111 16.12.1915

Seiler Rudolf Major R.I.R. 30 05.06.1917

Seiz Gustav Leutnant I.R. 114 17.10.1917

Senden Edmund Hauptmann R.Feld-Art.R. 29 13.08.1917

Senden Eduard Hauptmann Feld-Art. R. 50 06.11.1917

Seubert Rudolf Hauptmann Feld-Art. 14 25.01.1918

Sick Walter Leutnant I.R. 142 14.08.1917

S?ding Otto Hauptmann I.R. 112 02.06.1917

S?ler von Ravensburg, Frhr Major Feld-Art. R. 41 28.07.1917

Solgadi Alfons Leutnant d. R. I.R. 170 01.10.1918

Spielberger Karl Leutnant d. R. Ers.I.R. 29 02.09.1918

Spiess Karl Oberleutnant Pion-Batl 14 17.02.1915

Stahl Otto Leutnant d. R. Ers. I.R. 29 15.05.1918

Steiglehyer, Frhr Paul Major Feld-Art. R. 19 04.02.1918

Steinwachs Adolf Major R.I.R. 75 06.01.1917

Steltzer Gustav Major Land. I.R. 112 11.03.1918

Stober Friedrich Oberleutnant Feld-Art. R. 50 17.10.1918

Stoeklern zu Gr?nholzek, von Oberstleutnant I.R. 66 22.04.1918

Stoffleth Gustav Hauptmann R. J?g Batl 18 18.01.1917

S?tterle Otto Leutnant d. R. R.I.R. 91 31.08.1918

Sydow, von Hans Oberstleutnant I.R. 114 28.08.1916

Teschner Otto Major I.R. 142 23.04.1915

Teuffel von Birkensee, Frhr Hauptmann R. Feld-Art R. 28 06.01.1917

Theobald, von Karl Major Fuss-Art. R. 14 17.10.1917

Thoma Friedrich Hauptmann R.I.R. 218 15.03.1918

T?rckheim zu Altdorf, Frhr v. Major Feld-Art. R. 48 06.11.1918

Ulm Robert Hauptmann Feld-Art. R. 66 02.09.1918

Unruh, von Leutnant Leibgren-R. 109 08.08.1915

Wagener Otto Hauptmann R.I.R. 110 25.05.1916

Walli Hermann Hauptmann Land.Feld-Art R. 13 10.04.1918

Weese Wolfgang Oberleutnant F.A. 32 02.09.1915

Weil Otto Leutnant d. R. I.R. 112 03.07.1918

Welsch Hugo Oberleutnant I.R. 169 13.12.1916

Wenger Friedrich Leutnant d. R Pion-Batl 14 27.04.1918

Werle Otto Hauptmann Feld-Art.R. 66 15.05.1918

Windemuth Otto Hauptmann R.I.R. 40 27.06.1916

Wintermantel Hauptmann d. R. R.I.R. 250 09.06.1915

W?hrle Gustav Hauptmann R.I.R. 110 19.07.1918

Wolber Josef Leutnant d. R. I.R. 114 29.04.1918

Wolff Max Major Feld-Art. 14 02.06.1917

Wulff Friedrich Major I.R. 111 13.07.1918

Zastrow Rudolf Major Feld-Art. R. 50 05.09.1918

Zenker Maihold Leutnant d. R. Leibgren. R. 109 07.08.1918

Zimmermann Karl Leutnant R.I.R. 239 15.06.1918

Zimmermann Wilhelm Leutnant d. R. R.I.R. 46 26.10.1918

Zipse Rudolf Leutnant d. R. F?ss-R. 40 16.12.1915

Sorted alphabetically the list should read as follows:

Order Name Forename Rank Unit Date

96 Aberle Fritz Leutnant d. R. Land. I.R. 22 26.10.1916

191 Adelmann Karl Leutnant d. R. I.R. 114 14.01.1918

234 Alberti Wilhelm Oberst Ers. I.R. 29 15.05.1918

214 Allmann Carl Oberst 56 Land.I. Brig. 22.04.1918

144 Appenzelle Hermann Leutnant d. R. I.R. 394 20.07.1917

169 Arnim, von Alfred Hauptmann Leibgren. R. 109 06.11.1917

199 Baader Paul Major I.R. 464 02.02.1918

242 Baader Julius Oberleutnant Feld-Art.R. 30 03.07.1918

130 Bachelin Eduard Hauptmann R.I.R. 111 25.05.1917

197 Bader Jakob Hauptmann Feld-Art. R. 66 31.01.1918

100 Baeuerle Tobias Leutnant d. R. Sturmtrupp d. 8 Land. Div 08.11.1916

20 Barack Fritz Major I.R. 113 12.03.1915

145 Barth Friedrich Oberleutnant I.R. 110 28.07.1917

201 Barth Josef Major I.R. 30 08.02.1918

158 B?sch Karl Leutnant d. R. R.Feld-Art. R. 52 15.09.1917

237 Bassermann Heinrich Oberleutnant Feld-Art.R. 50 01.06.1918

272 Bauer Rudolf Hauptmann Feld-Art. R. 50 17.10.1918

47 Baumbach, von Oberstleutnant R.I.R. 109 02.09.1915

257 Beck Erich Rittmeister Gren.R.zu Pf. 3 08.08.1918

288 Beck Leopold Hauptmann Feld-Art. R. 287 08.11.1918

73 Beck, von Wolfgang Oberleutnant Feld-Art R. 14 03.03.1916

262 Beck, von Bruno Oberleutnant Feld-Art. R. 14 31.08.1918

240 Becker Felix Hauptmann I.R. 113 03.07.1918

43 Beczwarcowsky, von Oberst Leibgren-R. 109 04.08.1915

168 Behrle Lothar Hauptmann R.Feld-Art. R. 57 31.10.1917

114 Beier Arthur Leutnant d. L. R.I.R. 109 04.01.1917

53 Bender Eugen Oberstleutnant Feld-Art R. 74 04.09.1915

157 Bender Hans Hauptmann R.Feld-Art. R. 52 15.09.1917

259 Berg Ludwig Hauptmann 4. Gebirgsart.Abt. 29.08.1918

226 Berg Lud. Major R.Feld-Art.R. 50 06.05.1918

152 Berthold Richard Major I.R. 169 16.08.1917

106 Bismarck, Graf von August Oberstleutnant Land. I.R. 111 28.11.1916

38 Bitter Leutnant R.I.R. 40 23.07.1915

98 Bleibtreu Ernst Major R. Hus. R. 9 28.10.1916

156 Blittersdorff, Frhr von Major Gebirgsart. Abt. 5 11.09.1917

65 Block Franz Hauptmann R.I.R.109 27.12.1915

4 Blockner Major I.R. 97 02.12.1914

155 Blum Ernst Hauptmann Leibgren. R. 109 11.09.1917

77 Bogt Karl Hauptmann I.R. 28 25.04.1916

71 Bonin, von Bogislav Hauptmann Leibgren-R. 109 24.01.1916

85 Brandehrens, von Hermann Oberst Art-R. 50 19.06.1916

171 Brandt Philipp Major I.R. 470 12.11.1917

255 Brauch Karl Leutnant d. R. Ers.I.R. 28 19.07.1918

2 Braun, Ritter Edler von Oberleutnant R.I.R. 13 30.10.1914

238 Br?hl-Schneider Kurt Hauptmann I.R. 112 03.07.1918

176 Bruns Paul Hauptmann Feld-Art. R. 14 03.10.1917

107 Brurein Ernst Hauptmann I.R. 364 13.12.1916

135 Bullinger Johannes Hauptmann I.R. 112 02.06.1917

128 Caroli Alfred Leutnant d. R. I.R. 170 19.04.1917

46 Chrismar, von Ernst Oberst Feld-Art. 67 25.08.1915

127 Clossmann, von Hans Hauptmann Feld-Art. 103 19.04.1917

183 Consbruch, von Major Feld-Art. R. 76 28.12.1917

31 Courtin Richard Hauptmann d. R. I.R. 16 26.06.1915

245 D?nzer-Banotti August Oberleutnant Feld-Art.R.204 03.07.1918

5 Davans von Oberst R.I.R. 87 08.12.1914

1 Deimling, von Oberst R. Feld-Art R. 29 09.09.1914

227 Delhaes Alexander Hauptmann Feld-Art.R. 76 08.05.1918

102 Dernen Friedrich Leutnant d. R. Gren. R. 110 13.11.1916

80 Dierling Alexander Hauptmann I.R. 64 09.05.1916

75 Dohna-Schlodien, Graf zu Korvettenkapit?n 10.03.1916

105 Dossenbach Albert Leutnant d. R. F.A. 22 09.12.1916

181 Edelsheim, Frhr von Franz Oberstleutnant R.I.R. 234 03.12.1917

273 Eggers Hermann Hauptmann Feld-Art. R. 50 17.10.1918

275 Ehret Wilhelm Oberleutnant R.I.R. 249 12.10.1918

40 Eichhorn Eginhard Oberstleutnant Drag. R. 21 23.07.1915

286 Ellmer Albert Hauptmann Feld-Art. R. 76 08.11.1918

115 Emmerling Max Hauptmann Feld-Art R.14 06.01.1917

138 Engelhorn Wilhelm Major Feld-Art R. 23 22.06.1917

188 Ens Karl Leutnant d. R. Leibgren. R. 109 31.12.1917

109 Faller Heinrich Oberleutnant I.R. 169 13.12.1916

248 F?ssler Leutnant d. R. I.R. 170 13.07.1918

179 Fath Alfred Leutnant d. R. R.I.R. 238 24.11.1917

111 Felsche Karl Oberstleutnant R.I.R. 250 15.12.1916

177 Fenne Albert Leutnant R.I.R. 109 12.11.1917

174 Ficht Julius Leutnant d. R. Leibgren. R. 109 03.10.1917

143 Fieser Emil Hauptmann Feld-Art. 14 20.07.1917

45 Finner Theodor Major Land. I.R. 49 19.08.1915

249 Fischer Hermann Major I.R. 170 13.07.1918

123 Fitzer Eugen Hauptmann R.I.R. 249 21.02.1917

140 F?rster Karl Leutnant d. R. Ers.I.R. 28 17.06.1917

19 F?rster Eugen Major I.R. 111 12.03.1915

29 Forstner, Frhr von Major Leibgren-R. 109 13.06.1915

229 Freydorf Rudolf Major Land. I.R. 11 11.05.1918

99 Friedeburg, von Ludwig Oberst 50. Feld-Art Brig. 30.10.1916

264 Fritsche Alexander Oberleutnant Feld-Art. R. 270 02.09.1918

113 Fr?hlich Max Hauptmann R.Feld-Art. R. 29 04.01.1917

271 Frommherz Hermann Leutnant d. R. Jasta 27 17.10.1918

182 Fuchs Adolf Oberstleutnant I.R. 378 06.12.1917

224 Fuchs Oswald Leutnant d. R. Feld-Art R. 14 03.05.1918

161 Fust Alfred Leutnant d. R. I.R. 112 24.09.1917

153 Ganter Franz Leutnant d. R. R.I.R. 109 17.08.1917

6 G?rtner Oberst Land.I.R. 72 08.12.1914

210 Geiger Oskar Leutnant d. R. Sturm-Batl 1 10.04.1918

212 Gericke Otto Major R.Feld-Art.R.28 22.04.1918

39 Gl?ck Oberst I.R. 126 31.07.1915

93 G?bel Lorenz Major I.R. 111 14.10.1916

133 G?lery Ravensburg, Frhr Major I.R. 113 02.06.1917

202 G?ring Hermann Oberleutnant Jasta 27 11.02.1918

281 G?tz Arthur Leutnant d. R. M.G. Abt. 32 06.11.1918

220 Graf Hans Oberleutnant Gren.R. 110 03.05.1918

66 Grandenberger von Moisy L. Major R.I.R 110 27.12.1915

28 Graumann Hauptmann I.R. 97 07.05.1915

74 Gr?we, Edler von Hauptmann Gren. R. 110 03.03.1916

285 Greiff Otto Oberleutnant Feld-Art. R. 30 08.11.1918

101 Grohe Karl-Friedrich Major I.R. 113 13.11.1916

21 Gussmann Hermann Hauptmann I.R. 170 12.03.1915

173 Gutmann Hermann Leutnant d. R. Leibgren. R. 109 03.10.1917

59 Hackelsberger Albert Leutnant Drag. R. 22 26.11.1915

187 Haellmigk Hartwich Major I.R. 142 29.12.1917

192 Harlfinger Oberstleutnant I.R. 334 23.01.1918

278 Hartog Theodor Hauptmann Sturm.Batl.1 18.09.1918

215 H?ulein Oberleutnant R.I.R. 110 27.04.1918

146 Hausser Paul Hauptmann 3. Garde R. zu Fu? 28.07.1917

270 Hecht Gustav Hauptmann I.R. 336 12.10.1918

70 Heineccius, von Richard Hauptmann R.I.R. 250 09.02.1916

16 Herzberg, Graf von Kurt Major Leibgren-R. 109 12.03.1915

12 Heyden, von der Kurt Hauptmann Pion-Batl 14 17.02.1915

221 Hibschenberger Ernst Oberleutnant Gren.R. 110 03.05.1918

175 Hischmann Ernst Leutnant F?ss R. 40 03.10.1917

222 Hoefer Theodor Leutnant Gren.R. 110 03.05.1918

137 Hofer Adolf Oberleutnant I.R. 114 08.06.1917

22 Holz Friedrich Hauptmann Feld-Art. R. 50 21.03.1915

9 Holzing-Berstett, Frhr von Oberstleutnant 1. Garde Drag. R. 22.01.1915

167 H?lzlin Friedrich Leutnant I.R. 142 31.10.1917

34 Horn Willy Hauptmann I.R. 114 23.07.1915

25 Hoser, von Johann Leutnant Leibgren-R. 109 23.04.1915

251 H?ther Wilhelm Leutnant d. R. Gren. R. 110 07.08.1918

151 Iffland Adolf Major Feld-Art. R. 66 15.08.1917

90 Ihlenfeld, von Otto Major I.R. 170 26.09.1916

225 Imhoff Foh Hauptmann R.I.R. 110 06.05.1918

235 Jost Helmuth Leutnant d. R. I.R. 111 15.05.1918

50 Jumricht Wilhelm Hauptmann R.I.R. 110 02.09.1915

24 Jungermann Ferdinand Hauptmann I.R. 111 23.04.1915

8 Kachel August Major R. J?ger Batl 8 16.12.1914

104 Kaether Ernst Major R.I.R. 40 04.12.1916

276 Kaltenbach Franz Hauptmann R.I.R. 250 12.10.1918

142 Katz Kasimir Hauptmann Feld-Art. 14 20.07.1917

67 Keller Hanns Oberstleutnant I.R. 169 27.12.1915

195 Killinger Erich Leutnant zur See Seeflugstation Flandern I 25.01.1918

216 Kissel Hans Leutnant R.I.R. 142 27.04.1918

51 Kitzling Ernst Hauptmann R. Feld-Art. R. 29 02.09.1915

94 Koch Karl Leutnant d. R. I.R. 111 14.10.1916

252 K?ckritz Hans Leutnant d. R. Pion. Batl 14 07.08.1918

200 Koellreuther Otto Hauptmann Feld-Art. R. 80 02.02.1918

10 Koenige Heinrich Hauptmann Land. I.R. 5 23.01.1915

32 Kotze, von Hans-Ulrich Oberleutnant Leibgren-R. 109 23.07.1915

194 Krapp Hermann Hauptmann R.I.R. 77 25.01.1918

163 Krause Paul Oberstleutnant I.R. 185 01.10.1917

129 Krebs Heinrich Oberstleutnant Ers.I.R. 28 03.05.1917

68 Kr?ger August Oberstleutnant I.R. 170 27.12.1915

17 Kuenzer Hermann Hauptmann Leibgren-R. 109 12.03.1915

15 Kuhlmann Karl Oberstleutnant I.R. 113 12.03.1915

196 Kuhn Karl Hauptmann Fuss-Art. 42 31.01.1918

72 Kuhn Hans Leutnant d. R. I.R. 112 03.03.1916

27 Kummer, von K. Oberstleutnant I.R. 114 27.04.1915

64 K?pper Roland Hauptmann I.R. 173 23.12.1915

58 Lamey Hubert Oberstleutnant R.I.R. 40 08.10.1915

185 Lang Friedrich Major Feld-Art. 30 18.12.1917

134 Lange Ernst Hauptmann I.R. 113 02.06.1917

261 Lange Karl Hauptmann Feld-Art. R. 76 31.08.1918

131 L?ngle Oskar Oberleutnant I.R. 25 31.05.1917

125 Langsdorff, von Julius Major I.R. 184 08.03.1917

55 Laue Oberstleutnant R.I.R. 249 23.09.1915

236 Lauterschl?ger Georg Major I.R. 112 28.05.1918

180 Leienk?gel Philipp Hauptmann R. Feld-Art. R. 28 24.11.1917

3 Leiningen, Durch, F?rst zu Major ?. l. s. 1. Garde I.Bg 18.11.1914

280 Leist Eugen Leutnant d. R. R.I.R. 110 06.11.1918

164 Leist Eduard Major R.I.R. 78 03.10.1917

283 Lenel Paul Hauptmann I.R. 143 06.11.1918

92 Leonhard Bruno Hauptmann I.R. 185 04.10.1916

7 Ley F. Oberstleutnant R.I.R. 111 16.12.1914

48 Lilienhoff-Zmomitzki, von Major I.R. 169 02.09.1915

279 Livonius Georg Major Land. I.R. 40 09.09.1918

258 Loerzer Bruno Oberleutnant Jagdgeschwader 3 08.08.1918

184 Loes Karl Hauptmann I.R. 169 11.12.1917

57 Lorne, von St Ange O. Oberst I.R. 111 19.10.1915

49 M?der Franz Leutnant d. R. I.R. 170 02.09.1915

148 Markwitz Eugen Leutnant d. R. R.I.R. 109 13.08.1917

41 Marschak von Bachtenbrock Major Leibdrag. R. 20 23.07.1915

190 Mayer Karl Oberleutnant I.R. 132 14.01.1918

91 Mayer Guido Oberleutnant I.R. 170 26.09.1916

103 Mechler Anton Leutnant d. R. F?s-R. 40 13.11.1916

141 Meier Karl Oberleutnant Ers.I.R. 29 14.07.1917

54 Merk Adolf Leutnant d. L. I.R. 114 23.09.1915

205 Merkel Karl Leutnant d. R. Gren. R. 110 19.02.1918

287 Mez Moritz Hauptmann Feld-Art. R. 76 08.11.1918

26 Montfort Karl Leutnant d. R. I.R. 142 23.04.1915

37 Morlock Hauptmann R.I.R. 40 23.07.1915

18 Mors Franz Major Gren. R. 110 12.03.1915

241 M?ller Hermann Leutnant d. R. I.R. 113 03.07.1918

256 Nagel Karl Leutnant 2. Garde R. zu Fuss 08.08.1918

244 Nerger Karl Fregattenkapit?n 06.04.1918

178 Nicolai Eduard Leutnant d. R. Feld-Art. R. 14 24.11.1917

36 Nicolai Karl Oberstleutnant Feld-Art. R. 233 23.07.1915

126 Ostander Wilhelm Major Feld-Art. R. 15 24.03.1917

88 Ostrowski, von Bruno Oberst Feld-Art R. 76 28.08.1916

233 Paravicini Karl Hauptmann R.Feld-Art.R. 239 15.05.1918

35 Pattenhausen Rudolf Hauptmann Feld-Art. R. 30 23.07.1915

124 Pfeifer Hermann Leutnant d. R. Jasta 9 02.03.1917

63 Pfeil, von Oberst I.R. 168 18.12.1915

254 Platz Hermann Leutnant d. R. R.Feld-Art.R. 29 19.07.1918

147 Platz Paul Major R.I.R. 201 01.08.1917

223 Poseck Horst Major Feld-Art R. 14 03.05.1918

33 Preuschen, von Hauptmann Gren. R. 110 23.07.1915

76 Raderhoff Heinrich Oberleutnant d. R. R.I.R. 28 25.04.1916

186 Randoll Georg Leutnant d. R. I.R. 112 20.12.1917

14 Reichardt Ernst Leutnant Feldart. R. 30 17.02.1915

97 Reinicke Hermann Major F?s. R. 40 20.10.1916

95 Reinke Walther Hauptmann Feld-Art R. 50 26.10.1916

44 Renner August Hauptmann R.I.R. 272 18.08.1915

11 Richard Karl Hauptmann I.R. 169 17.02.1915

189 Richter Gustav Hauptmann R.I.R. 238 14.01.1918

246 Riede Hellmuth Leutnant d. R. I.R. 114 15.07.1918

122 Rochlitz Alban Major R. Feld-Art. R. 43 12.02.1917

166 Rochlitz Heinrich Oberstleutnant R.Feld-Art. R. 48 08.11.1917

84 Roeder von Diersburg, Frhr Hauptmann Feld-Art R. 14 19.06.1916

69 Rotberg, Frhr von Albert Major Gren. R. 7 24.01.1916

198 R?dt von Collenberg, Frhr Hauptmann R. Feld-Art R. 21 02.02.1918

78 R?dt von Collenberg, Frhr Oberleutnant I.R. 28 25.04.1916

260 R?dt von Collenberg, Frhr K. Hauptmann J?ger-Batl. 4 31.08.1918

86 Ruland Heinrich Hauptmann Gren. R. 110 19.06.1916

162 Rundstedt, von Udo Major I.R. 113 24.09.1917

61 Saunier Leon Hauptmann Gren.R. 110 16.12.1915

154 Sautier Friedrich Hauptmann Feld-Art. R. 51 06.09.1917

120 Schauber Ludwig Leutnant d. R. R.I.R. 65 18.01.1917

204 Schede Karl Hauptmann Gren. R. 110 19.02.1918

110 Schedl Ludwig Oberleutnant I.R. 170 13.12.1916

83 Scherer Eugen Major I.R. 114 19.06.1916

228 Scherer Gustav Major Feld-Art R. 7 11.05.1918

206 Scheu Allois Leutnant Land. I.R. 109 04.03.1918

231 Schleich Paul Hauptmann Feld-Art.R. 66 15.05.2018

121 Schmeickert Emil Oberleutnant I.R. 169 12.02.1917

119 Schmid Erwin Leutnant d. R. I.R. 20 20.01.1917

209 Schmidt Paul Leutnant d. R. I.R. 142 23.03.1918

284 Schmidt Hermann Major I.R. 114 06.11.1918

160 Schmutz Otto Leutnant d. R. I.R. 114 06.09.1917

79 Schneider Robert Leutnant d. R. Feld-Art R. 50 07.05.1916

219 Schofer Otto Leutnant I.R. 185 01.05.1918

56 Sch?nau-Wehr Eberhard Hauptmann R. Radfahrer K. 75 23.09.1915

112 Schroeder August Major R.I.R. 110 04.01.1917

267 Schvenebeck Hermann Major Land.I.R. 382 05.09.1918

82 Schweickhard Karl Hauptmann I.R. 113 14.06.1916

62 Seht, von Hanns Hauptmann I.R. 111 16.12.1915

139 Seiler Rudolf Major R.I.R. 30 05.06.1917

170 Seiz Gustav Leutnant I.R. 114 17.10.1917

149 Senden Edmund Hauptmann R.Feld-Art.R. 29 13.08.1917

172 Senden Eduard Hauptmann Feld-Art. R. 50 06.11.1917

193 Seubert Rudolf Hauptmann Feld-Art. 14 25.01.1918

150 Sick Walter Leutnant I.R. 142 14.08.1917

136 S?ding Otto Hauptmann I.R. 112 02.06.1917

159 S?ler von Ravensburg, Frhr Major Feld-Art. R. 41 28.07.1917

269 Solgadi Alfons Leutnant d. R. I.R. 170 01.10.1918

266 Spielberger Karl Leutnant d. R. Ers.I.R. 29 02.09.1918

13 Spiess Karl Oberleutnant Pion-Batl 14 17.02.1915

232 Stahl Otto Leutnant d. R. Ers. I.R. 29 15.05.1918

203 Steiglehyer, Frhr Paul Major Feld-Art. R. 19 04.02.1918

116 Steinwachs Adolf Major R.I.R. 75 06.01.1917

207 Steltzer Gustav Major Land. I.R. 112 11.03.1918

274 Stober Friedrich Oberleutnant Feld-Art. R. 50 17.10.1918

213 Stoeklern zu Gr?nholzek, von Oberstleutnant I.R. 66 22.04.1918

118 Stoffleth Gustav Hauptmann R. J?g Batl 18 18.01.1917

263 S?tterle Otto Leutnant d. R. R.I.R. 91 31.08.1918

89 Sydow, von Hans Oberstleutnant I.R. 114 28.08.1916

23 Teschner Otto Major I.R. 142 23.04.1915

117 Teuffel von Birkensee, Frhr Hauptmann R. Feld-Art R. 28 06.01.1917

165 Theobald, von Karl Major Fuss-Art. R. 14 17.10.1917

208 Thoma Friedrich Hauptmann R.I.R. 218 15.03.1918

282 T?rckheim zu Altdorf, Frhr v. Major Feld-Art. R. 48 06.11.1918

265 Ulm Robert Hauptmann Feld-Art. R. 66 02.09.1918

42 Unruh, von Leutnant Leibgren-R. 109 08.08.1915

81 Wagener Otto Hauptmann R.I.R. 110 25.05.1916

211 Walli Hermann Hauptmann Land.Feld-Art R. 13 10.04.1918

52 Weese Wolfgang Oberleutnant F.A. 32 02.09.1915

239 Weil Otto Leutnant d. R. I.R. 112 03.07.1918

108 Welsch Hugo Oberleutnant I.R. 169 13.12.1916

217 Wenger Friedrich Leutnant d. R Pion-Batl 14 27.04.1918

230 Werle Otto Hauptmann Feld-Art.R. 66 15.05.1918

87 Windemuth Otto Hauptmann R.I.R. 40 27.06.1916

30 Wintermantel Hauptmann d. R. R.I.R. 250 09.06.1915

253 W?hrle Gustav Hauptmann R.I.R. 110 19.07.1918

218 Wolber Josef Leutnant d. R. I.R. 114 29.04.1918

132 Wolff Max Major Feld-Art. 14 02.06.1917

247 Wulff Friedrich Major I.R. 111 13.07.1918

268 Zastrow Rudolf Major Feld-Art. R. 50 05.09.1918

250 Zenker Maihold Leutnant d. R. Leibgren. R. 109 07.08.1918

243 Zimmermann Karl Leutnant R.I.R. 239 15.06.1918

277 Zimmermann Wilhelm Leutnant d. R. R.I.R. 46 26.10.1918

60 Zipse Rudolf Leutnant d. R. F?ss-R. 40 16.12.1915

Glenn,

Thanks very much for that information.

Paul, I have never really tried to put a value on single documents, or groups for that matter. This unfortunately incomplete group turned up on German eBay and cost approximately what many collectors pay for a clean 1914 EK2 in the USA. For more common documents there seem to be generally accepted price levels, but complete groups or unusual units tend to push prices higher. Since ours are the only Charlotte documents I have ever seen, I wouldn't even know what to guess. There are probably a few collectors of documents from specific Imperial German states who could put a price on them, but I find they tend to keep their collections to themselves.

The large and small format documents issued by Bernhard certainly turn up more frequently, but I can only go by what they sell for on German eBay as far as prices are concerned, i.e. not very much. Since I mainly collect documents, I am quite happy with this state of affairs.

Rick, it would be nice to find and reunite his EK2 document with the rest of the group.

David

Various papers included in the group indicate that F?rster was involved in disarmament and discharge proceedings together with the Soldatenrat relating to Gruppe M?rchingen in November 1918.

After the war he left the army as a non-combatant staff officer and returned to the court system. The final part of his paper trail shows that he was serving as an Amtsgerichtsrat in Kassel in late 1935.

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Considering the documents that I have show he served as a non-combatant staff officer throughout most, if not all, of the war, I wonder what his EK2 document was for. Non-combatant on black/white or white/black ribbon?

In September 1918, he was given a document confirming that he did not need a delousing chit. As a staff officer, perhaps he simply managed to avoid lice. At this time, he was serving with Generalkommando zur besonderen Verwendung Nr. 66, which pencilled notes suggest that he joined on 20 February 1918.

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On 8 November 1918, just before Germany entered a period of turmoil and civil unrest, he was awarded the EK1.

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On 1 April 1915, he was awarded the Sachsen-Meiningen Ehrenkreuz f?r Verdienst im Kriege am Bande f?r Nichtkombattanten (on the non-combattants ribbon) as Leutnant der Reserve und Bataillonsadjutant im Ersatz-Bataillon des Landwehr-Infanterie-Regiments Nr. 32 by the regent's wife and former Princess Charlotte of Prussia.

Sachsen-Meiningen documents are not too common and this is only the second one I know of issued by Herzogin Charlotte. As an award for the non-combattant ribbon, it is probably one of the least common variants.

The document also details his peacetime occupation as Gerichtsassessor in Corbach.

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In March 1914, Leutnant der Reserve F?rster, living in Corbach, received notification from Bezirks-Kommando Arolsen (stamped Bezirks-Kommando Hersfeld) of his duties in the event of mobilisation. He was to report to Infanterie-Regiment Nr. 32 at Leipziger Strasse 19 in Meiningen by midday of the 3rd day of mobilisation.

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Like Oberleutnant Koch, Referendar Gustav F?rster received his Patent as Gerichtsassessor in March 1911.

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In December 1908, then Vizewachtmeister F?ster received his Patent as Leutnant der Reserve der Feldartillerie.

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The back of the Patent shows that it was supposed to be signed at the New Palace, however, there seems to be no trace of a signature.

Remarks added in pencil indicate that he became Oberleutnant on 22 May 1915 and Hauptmann on 31 May (or September?) 1918.

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Has anybody else got any for comparison?????

Well, actually ... take a look at http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=2903

Paul Chepurko has just posted a thread on a recipient of the Sachsen-Meiningen Ehrenkreuz for merit in war at http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?act=ST&f=71&t=2888

I also have group to a man who was probably acquainted with him, as they both served as civil servants in the Kassel courts in 1910 and 1911.

The documents below show part of the military career of Gustav F?rster, a civil servant who finally rose to the rank of Hauptmann der Reserve.

Gustav F?rster was born on 17 June 1880 in Wetzlar. He served as a one-year volunteer with 1. Kurhessisches Feldartillerie-Regiment Nr. 11 from 1 October 1905 to 30 September 1906. As a supernumary Unteroffizier on the latter date, he received approval from his regimental commander (signature?) that he was considered qualified and suitable to pursue a Reserve Officer career.

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Can anyone help with the signature?

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Ed,

Thanks for that concise overview. I have only visited India twice and am still amazed at the British legacy still apparent in many aspects of daily life.

Has this system disappeared completely or is it still upheld by some parts of Indian society?

David

Ed,

Are these titles granted in a particular order, i.e. do they equate to a rank system?

Were they connected to any financial privileges, e.g. a pension?

Thanks in advance,

David

Ed,

Although I tend to be interested in Imperial German documents more than anything else, I do find it interesting to see what else there is to collect and research.

Please show us some more!

David

The date has suffered from the rust that seems to have been "added" as ageing.

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This oblique view shows the paint finish better. Before I was informed that this cross is a fake, and I assume it is a Floch, I offered to trade it for some Imperial awards at a show in Germany. The only reason the deal did not take place is because I could not agree on acceptable trade with the dealer. He certainly seemed convinced that it was good, but was equally convinced his Imperial awards were worth much more than the buying price for a 1939 EK1. Never mind.

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If anyone wants it as an example of a Floch cross, I am still interested in trading it for Imperial items. I apologise if this is the wrong place to offer it for trade and ask for the post to be edited appropriately if necessary.

David

Catch details:

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Hinge details:

The back:

Here are some more details of a Floch 1939 EK1.

Paul,

Nice bar. The FAM seems to be mounted on the peacetime ribbon.

David

Hi Tony,

II./IR 55 was garrisoned in Bielefeld.

David

Joe,

I would not expect to pay more than Euros 200 for these three crosses from dealers in Germany. At that price, however, I would also expect to see "nicer" ribbons.

If you frequent German eBay, you will also find them for less if you are persistent.

The Hamburg crosses and their documents are the easiest to find. Generally accepted award number statistics suggest that the L?beck cross is the rarest, followed by the Bremen cross. Prices certainly seem to reflect this, although the Bremen cross seems to be offered as rarely as the L?beck cross.

Bremen and L?beck award documents are not offered very often, but I have found more from L?beck than Bremen, which is unusual considering that approximately twice as many Bremen crosses were awarded than their counterparts from L?beck.

The trifold ribbon is a rare mounting arrangement.

Although I tend not to collect "sets", these three crosses are a nice combination and look good when displayed together.

David

And the back with the maker's details:

This is the front of an issue packet for the non-com cross: