Jacques

I read in a magazine that the first crosses issued from : - Juncker - Steinhauer - Godet - Meybauer - Deumer I suppose the "835" (Steinhauer or Deumer) an awarded piece. But as I said previuosly , the stocks keep on sell later after the parade. jacques

No, no, some variants are still lacking !

Here is a case for the Honor cross for relatives (Ehrenkreuz f?r Hinterbliebene).

Hello Joe, the Meybauer is not mine, I would like though. This is an awarded piece in my opinion. They were produced up to 1941 and still sold after the LDO regulations to finish the stock I suppose. then replaced by the L/13. This is just a supposition because no text exist about it. As these crosses are of better quality/finish than the L/13, may be they were still available for special purchase. I don't really know. jacques

When these one will be cased, it'll be your turn Sal !

I totally agree Markus !

Here is a silver cross from original without sword die.

Much obliged Joe. Here is anothe pic of a silver spanish cross. The swords have been cut out and polished.

I do think that some dealers had a special die for the without sword crosses, and some other not. At which time the swords were cut, that's a question. In most cases I think directly by the manufacturer. It is well done, close to the circle and then polished. Sometimes the cut is more crude and it could habe been occured later by the period seller (shop). There is no reason for a current dealer to cut swords on a bronze cross. But on a silver one, it could increase the price. These one are crudely cut

I checked all my files. here are the crosses/ MM I found with cut off swords: - JUNCKER: CEJ, CEJ 900, L/12, unmarked Juncker - MEYBAUER: L/13, Coat of arms, coat of arms 900 - SCHICKLE: L/15 - DEUMER: L/11 Here are the crosses / MM I found from original die without sword: - STEINHAUER: 4, L/16, - FOERSTER & BARTH: L/21 - ZIMMERMANN: L/52 - unmarked soldered eagles - unmarked one piece construction May be you have in your files other MM samples. Please share them . jacques

Here is a pic of Otto BERTRAM. he wear the ribbon for the medal "sufrimientos por la patria".

thanks, the group is not yet mine but soon. it contains also the dco for spanish cross in silver, medalla de la campa?a, cruz roja, letter sent to the family with the detail of the medal sent.

Let me know for any boxes, blue, green , red. I've crosses to bed .

I think I'll stop to post pictures of Spanish crosses or LC items if toooo many guys are addicted to ! The market is not wide enough for all of us

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The berlin parade on June the 6 th of 1939, has been very well organized. Around 18000 former members of the LC marched. You have to add the other regular troop, the officials, the guests, etc... These latest ones are of my interest for that topic. The family of the participant did receive a kind of invitation, and tickets for the participation to this big parade. In the case of this group here are which were sent to the family to facilitate their participation: - A -20% reduction railway ticket - ticket for the hotel and restauration - invitation for the parade (tribune) - invitation for the others organized activities It is amazing that these papers remained in family, with the other documents of course

Hello, what are your though about that topic. jacques

I just got this one today. Not in very good condition but full of pics

This one is particular. I picked it up on the net and if the owner is there and want I removed it, just ask me. the guy was enlisted to the IR 17, but he is wearing the Leibhusaren skull. No good skull available, he was a former cavalry man ? Don't know the eason but very interesting picture.

No, as you can see on the genealogy organigram, it was worn by few units, those in green or red. jacques

Here is another plaque marked 8./ F88 the metal is very light like can sheet metal.

here is a pic showing an hairdresser on the front during the WW1. He is wearing the cuff title Gibraltar

No more pictures ?

Here is another ribbons bar I own, but in worn condition with no backing.