Ferdinand

Yes, that is Eisenhower's. From their collection. Which, apparently, That Forum has the unmitigated gall to assert is under their copyright!!! Someone needs to sue their pretentious bandwidth off! This would go to six digits (US$) in damages in intellectual property court. (Shall see if I still have ex-students at the Eisenhower Museum. I know I have an ex-student in a major intellectual property firm. Time for introductions.)

Ed,

For our website (www.ww2awards.com) we asked the Eisenhower Library for permission to use their pictures of the Order of Victory. Their Audiovisual Archivist asked where we found the pictures (the Soviet Awards Page). This was a part of their response:

"Since the photographs of the order of victory used on the Soviet Awards wesbite were taken by our staff photographer, they are unrestricted so you are free to use them on your website".

So there is no problem I think, although the SAP of course had no right to place copyright marks on the photographs.

Auke

BTW: Auke needed only 9 (nine) minutes to post the correct answer.

And that's including typing, am I holding the record?

And a new question (shouldn't be too difficult):

I am a famous Soviet general. At the start of the GPW I was a Colonel and a tank division commander. In 11 months time I was, amongst others, awarded the Kutuzov 2nd and 1st Classes, two Suvorov 1st Classes and a Khmelnitsky 1st Class. In the spring of 1944 I was already a Colonel-General. Within a year after this date I also became a two times HSU. Who am I?

And this is Lyudnikov, a hero of the Battle of Stalingrad. A new question will come tomorrow afternoon.

Ivan Ilyich Lyudnikov. He was promoted Major-General on 27 January 1943. He was awarded the Order of Suvorov 2nd (once) and 1st Class (three times!).

Gentlemen,

The Order of Victory isn't serial numbered.

Auke

Your question is a bridge too far for us...

That's true, but sometimes www.pobediteli.ru can help us - it currently lists 1,054,938 Soviet GPW veterans still alive. Svinarenko isn't listed, but if he was, we at least knew he didn't die young.

If I were you I would request research now. It won't take long to do so, but it will take many months before you get results.

Regarding this group, a friendly forumite has suggested a reading of the name as Nikolai Vasilyevich Bazhehahyok.

Bazhehahyok? It reads Bazhanyuk.

More correctly it would be 'Sergeyevich'. The doc in post # 10 is related to the Veteran of Labor Medal. He received his 100 Years of Lenin on 20 April 1970, the Badge of Honor on 5 April 1971, the Veteran of Labor on 10 December 1985 and the 1975 Badge on 16 January 1976.

All foreign orders of Kholostyakov:

Order of the British Empire (Great Britain)

Order for Military Merit 2nd Class (Bulgaria)

Order for Military Merit 3rd Class (Bulgaria)

Order of Hungarian Freedom in Silver (Hungaria)

Order of the Romanian Star 1st Class (Romania)

Star of the Romanian Peoples Republic (Romania)

Order of the White Lion "For Victory" 2nd Class (Czechoslovakia)

Military Cross 1939 (Czechoslovakia)

Partisan Star 1st Class (Yugoslavia)

(Translation from Russian, might be inaccurate.)

No name related to a sea battle. Your picture however depicts the Battle of Trafalgar. Was there an order named after this battle?

That's not Zhukov, it's Chuikov.

That's Army-General Issa Aleksandrovich Pliev, during the Battle of Stalingrad a Major-General. He commanded the 3rd Guards Cavalry Corps from July until December 1942.

According to the following topic he received his Hero Star on 7 May 1971 together with a Sukhbaatar, and his Polar Star in 1938. No idea when he got the other two Sukhbaatar's.

http://gmic.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=3571

Thanks Dan!

Auke

You've got a nice collection OoV!

One thing that struck me was the irregularity in the mounting of the ribbons. Left over right, right over left... Is there any logic in this? (DDR is not my 'area'.)

Auke

Awarded to Guards Senior Sergeant Ivan Petrovich Alekseyev, doc signed by a Major-General (Danilov?).

I also found those two links, and some expired eBay auctions. I will contact Alexei, as Collectrussia is not an option (very high shipping costs, no PayPal, etc.)

Thanks Ed, sounds like a 'must have' for collectors of Mongolian awards. I will see if I can find a copy.

Is there anyone who can show us a picture of an enamelled ribbon for the Sukhbaatar? I could only find a description for the pre-1961 enamelled ribbon on Yuri Yashnev's site:

yellow - light blue - light blue/white - dark red - light blue/white - light blue - yellow...

I also tend to believe Battushig is right.

If we take a look at the following topic, we can see that Choibalsan wears both his Hero Star and Sukhbaatar as of 1945. All the pre-1945 pictures only show his Hero Star.

- Choibalsan award chronology in pictures

When was the Order of Sukhbaatar instituted? 1945 or 1941? According to Dietrich Herfurth, Yuri Yashnev's site and Megan's site it was 16 May 1941, but according to Ed's classification on page 3 of this topic it is 1945.

Why did Art want to create a database just like the one created by Alex Filer? Now serial numbers will be scattered in these two databases. This new database has no added value, except Mongolian awards, but as Ed wrote, a lot has to be fixed in that section. Again Art makes me angry

You are fast Christian Have you read Antony Beevor's book about Grossman? It's quite interesting. By the way, Grossman and the other reporters wore a Lieutenant-Colonels uniform.

Very interesting photo's, thanks! The ribbons in post # 57 / 58 are interesting, with one even worn upside down...

Remember that it's CollectRussia As long as we don't buy them, this is not what these are going for.