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    Egorka

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    1. Yeah, looks like. But... the decirations and the rank don't quite match. Will check more when home. I don't think, his Danebrog decorations should be with Christian IX's cypher.

      His name is Hans Peter Rothe (1813-1905).

      Rank: 24. marts 1858:  Orlogskaptajn

      Decirations:

      20. september 1847 - Ridder af Dannebrogordenen

      6. oktober 1860 - Dannebrogsmændenes Hæderstegn

      21. april 1864 - Kommandør af 2. grad af Dannebrogordenen

      17. januar 1883 - Kommandør af 1. grad af Dannebrogordenen

      See, then the portrait must have been painted between 1860 and 1864 (only 2 first decorations depicted). But then both of them were awarded under Frederik VII. Then why the Royal cypher of Christian IX's? This could be artist's liberty or intention.

    2. Not quite.

      On 11-Nov-1879 the awards were: 3 Danebrog to Stab-Offiers and 4 to Uber-Officers. 10 gold medals on Danebrog ribbon and 40 silver ones on red-white (flag) ribbon for Unter-Officers and private ranks.

      The regiment history does not mention the classes of Danebrog orders awarded. Except for the awards Christian IX made personally on 03/Jan (one 1 class, one 2 class, and one silver). But I think L.Stevnsborg mention them in his book.

    3. Yours! Wow! It is either the world is too small or your collection is too big. :) I just started collecting medals this year and the most rear piece I have is the Danish double medal for the Slesvig wars.

      Back to the topic. Shevelev had 4 St. George crosses, i.e. full bar, awarded between 1877-1878. Plus he had Danebrog hederstegn in silver (received personally from Christian IX on 03 January 1879) and the gold medal.

      Note that on the drawing he has 4 crosses. These must be the St. George crosses. So this means, he is depicted without the Danebrog Silver badge. I don't know which medals he had (3 on the portrait). But with this logic the Danish golden medal is not one of them...

      Maybe the low ranks did not have right to bear foreign awards without permission? I don't know.

    4. OK. Not exactly quite what you asked for, I guess. But still relevant.

      There is a short paragraph in the regimental history about the medal. It was awarded on 11-Nov-1879 (old style calendar). I could not find the list of awardees, but at least one is mentioned personally - Wachtmeister Nikolaj Shevelev - who received one of the ten gold medals for bravery. I could not find any photos of Shevelev, but there is a drawing of him. Can't really distinguish the Danish medal though... :)

      Since regiments comander Colonel MEdvedovskij is depicted with his Danebrog crosses, I assume the Shevelevs portrait also should include the Danish medal.

      By the way, though it is true that the specimen from the Mint collection is without suspension, The Orders and Medals Society of Denmark (OMSD) has an image of it with the suspension ring, but without a ribbon attachment.

       

      Shevelev.jpg

      Shevelev2.jpg

      Medvedovskij.jpg

    5. Hello.

      Probably too late for an answer, no? :)

      You mentioned 17th Severskij H.M. Danish King Christian IX dragoon regiment of the Imperial Russian army (from 1882 - 45th, from 1907 - 18th), was one of the two most decorated regiments in Imperial Russian army. Founded in 1856.

      Christian IX was regiment's Parton in the period from 29may1865 to 20jan1906, and the regiment's name was amended with his name. It likely was a piece in the puzzle of marital alliance between Russian and Danish Royal houses. Danish Princess Dagmar's Russian fiancé died unexpectedly on 22apr1865, but the Russian Tzar wished to proceed with marital alliance. So this was probably the reason.

      About the medal, I will try to search the Russian sources. 

    6. Sorry, my bad. I found it (pages 16 - 30) in catalog 71.

      A little diasapponted not to see the Slesvig war medals. :) 

      The 2 single war medals are not of much rarity, but the "double medal" was only struck in 3000 pcs, i.e. to those who participated in both 1848 and 1864 wars in frontline units. One of the few Danish medals, that was actually given to real combatants in a real war. 

      Russel Furtado wrote an article on these medals in JOMSA in 2010. 

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