Farkas

On 27/08/2023 at 20:11, Elmar Lang said:

 

Hello again, 

Thank you all for the kind words. 

 

Re. the Franz Joseph Orden, honestly I would pass on it and spare those 680,- Euro for something else. 

 

The cross itself looks like a piece probably made by Mayer's Söhne, Vienna (although no maker's mark appears as having been struck to the round ring, passing through the crown's orb and the overall quality looks like being less accurate than what would be to expect even from a gilt-bronze piece made by Mayer). The long, grooved, tapering ribbon ring is typical of the awards made by Messrs. Johnson, Milan, Italy, from the early 50s of 20th Century onwards. 

 

Best wishes, 

 

Enzo 

 

 

 

Hello Enzo,

as a man who still can’t tell an original ribbon from a modern one i find myself continuously in awe of your knowledge...

tony 🍻

On 03/02/2022 at 11:27, Chris Boonzaier said:

Hi, has anyone heard of the German Artist named Rosenberg? Apparently an Afrikakorps artist? Thanks, Chris

This may be him Chris...

Heinrich Rosenberg, Luftwaffe JG27

https://www.directart.co.uk/mall/aces.php?PilotID=1670

tony 🍻

I’ve got a dozen Guards tunics, i’m only missing a Coldstream one...but i do have 2 Battledress to compensate, this is one of them...

It belonged to Brigadier Robert Charles Windsor-Clive, served with 2CG in ww2 and later C.O. of 3CG circa 1960, he is probably a bit before your time but may be familiar.

By the way, i’ve just seen that

https://www.austro-hungarian-army.co.uk

is yours... it’s a great piece of work, thanks for making it 👍👍

Best wishes,

tony 🍻

PS. You may have noticed i don’t need much of an excuse to post pics of my stuff... 😊

Hi Gents,

I found this described as ‘unknown medal’, i’m pretty sure at the time i found another example but right now I don’t know what it is... any ideas Gents?

I believe it commemorates the unveiling of a statue to Feldmarschall Radetzky v. Radetz, in 1892, in Vienna, on the reverse.

He lived from 1766 to 1858 which is remembered on the front along with his image.

I have found other commemorative medallions for him in bronze with different designs.

But I cannot find this design or the ribbon.

The medal has an ‘A’ stamped on the collar, it’s hard to see and even harder to get in a photo but it doesn’t seem to be set in a circle which i’m used to seeing for Vienna assay office and it doesn’t feel like silver, i think it’s more like lead.

I bought it together with a Karl Kreuz for just 26 quid so it only cost me a fiver or so.

If it wasn’t for the ribbon I wouldn’t have looked too close but it seems somebody wore this, the medal is sown to the fitting.

Does anybody have any knowledge of this? Any comments welcome 👍

cheers

tony 🍻

Hi Bill, 

just a little more...

This is the Officer pattern in 1900

tony 🍻

3 minutes ago, Gordon Craig said:

there are so many things I want to buy right now!!!!!

Ain’t there always 😊

9 minutes ago, Gordon Craig said:

Farkas,

Thanks for finding this article with the explanation of what the requirements were for awarding the badge and the time frame (1943).  Always great to see new badges I need to look for!

Regards,

Gordon

Yes interesting isn’t it, they wrote a good article. I knew people did it but I didn’t know it was ever an organised effort. 

I was totally unaware of the scheme. 

Some other interesting badges including one of these (warning Gordon : still for sale 😃) if you really want to tease yourself 👇

https://www.sallybosleysbadgeshop.com/shop.php?c=506

tony 🍻

Lovely to see.. 

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There is a really informative piece on this pinterest page..

https://www.pinterest.co.uk/pin/14566398782740399/

I also found reference to the scheme starting in 1850 with volounteers sought and patterns being distributed at various times including campaigns run during Ww1 & Ww2.  

The badges i found looking like this are being described as WW2.

On 06/07/2023 at 01:59, Terry37 said:

Hi Duncan, just seeing this and I cannot say for sure which war/period. Can you share a picture of the back as they help us?

 

Terry

As Terry says, the back may hold the answer particularly if there is a makers mark. 

Cheers 

tony 🍻

On 15/09/2023 at 07:14, Glenn J said:

Here is an example from the Coldstream Guards (also from the nineties) worn by by my good self 🙂

💪💪🍻🍻

I know it still doesn’t answer your original question but i hope you might enjoy seeing these other examples i have... you never know, you may even recognise the names!

SGT Welsh Guards 

& In Silver.

SGT Honourable Artillery Company

Cheers

tony 🍻

17 hours ago, Glenn J said:

I noticed something recently, I had not done so before; the difference in lace on the the cuff and skirt "slashes" of Foot Guards officers' tunics. I was looking for a clear image of the cuffs as those in the 1911 dress regulations are not overly clear. I then noticed that the pattern of lace on modern tunics is very different indeed to that originally worn. Basically, the new pattern is the same for all five regiments apart from button spacing. It seems that the new pattern lace was introduced in the eighties or possibly early nineties at the latest. Some images I have of the 1982 Queen's Birthday Parade still show the old pattern in wear. An article in the Journal of the Society for Army Historical Research (Volume 74 of 1996), states:

 

"Recent changes in the Household Division, the last units in which full dress is authorized as a regular order of dress, have resulted in the adoption of a universal pattern of gold lace, made of mylar, for the officers' tunics of all five regiments of the Foot Guards"

 

The question is: when was the new lace actually introduced and by which authority? Thanks.

 

Regards

Glenn

 

Old pattern (rather faded)

 

 

New Pattern

 

 

 

I dont have an officers tunic but i have this Warrant Officers one, Welsh guards bandsman.

This is from the 90’s I’d guess...

tony 🍻

On 28/08/2023 at 16:33, Christian1962 said:

Gentlemen,

 

I am not a collector of british items, but I enjoyed this thread as far. I enjoyed the pics and the memories of the men, who served with the RMP. Thank you all!

 

Christian

Me too.. 

🍻

21 hours ago, Marcon1 said:

Hiya,

 

Although my eyesight might not be what it ones was I do seem to see that the Coat of Arms is divided into 4 quarters.

top left and bottom right blue with some image while the other 2 quarters look like gold with some image.

Also, that dark blob in the middle, could that be another image ??

Could this therefor be one of those German states (pre 1914) crosses ??

 

Marcon1.

 

 

Yes, i agree, i see what appears to be a line coming in from the left centre.

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5 hours ago, Philip.S said:

Wow, wish i could build up a collection so well and so quickly! 

 

Good luck,

 

Philip.S

 

 

It’s already got me inspired to try!

😊

🍻

11 minutes ago, gjw said:

Thanks for the kind words Tony!

You’re welcome my friend 🍻🍻

Hello Gents,

This one below is actually just a little snapshot...

This one below is a CDV a little bigget than a postcard in size, i’ve added a picture of the reverse as it has a newspaper cutting glued to it...

tony 🍻

On 29/08/2023 at 22:34, gjw said:

Hey all, this was waiting for me when I got home from vacation.  Nice piece IMO

 

Best Regards 

 

Greg

 

 

 

Yes looks very nice Greg.

Good looking ribbon too 👍👍

tony 🍻

Hello Stefan,

i’ve no expertise in it, but that is a lovely looking piece in my opinion, looks to be in great condition.

The only things i know to look for in ribbons is for the loops at the end of the rows, which yours has... and i check it with ultraviolet too.

So, again, just in my amateur opinion, i like the look of it, the hallmark looks good and the ribbon does too,

That probably doesn’t add much to inform your opinion but.. 

I did find this which i think relates to the hallmark stamps on yours.

I look forward to hearing to hearing the experts opinions 👍

cheers

tony 🍻

On 06/09/2023 at 12:59, JanneP said:

Hi,

 

here is two tunics. Are those Russian imperial army tunics? Didnt find any good online source to make some research. Any opinions?

My gut feeling is also Russian or maybe French? I don’t think British or Prussian but I can’t justify my feeling.

There are so many generic modern items its hard to find good period examples (labelled) using google and I didn’t see a match on any illustrations i found.

The first one is unusual and the second one is odd too , to my British eye anyway 😊... though i guess even reproductions are likely based on something.

Its gonna be tough without a proper nose in the flesh 🤷‍♂️

May i ask are you considering buying them or just curious? They are good looking things but a gamble if priced as ‘real’.

Hopefully my ignorance will trigger a more knowledgeable gent to help us out 🤞

tony. 🍻

Hi Gents,

i’m hoping for an opinion on this 👇

it is being treated as a copy, understandably, as even i know now that these should have an ‘issue’ number stamped on them and this doesn’t.

However I understand that it was bought a while back so has at least  some age to it and the ribbon looks like it has too.  

The pin backing not so much.

This isn’t my usual thing...

so i’m hoping to find out how old the ribbon is? and whether the cross could be a legitimately issued replacement or a spare to wear in case of loss  🤷‍♂️ 

If it is an insulting poor fake, I apologise in advance!!

thanks Gents,

tony 🍻

On 11/09/2023 at 21:19, unmo300 said:

FA - Franz Adler Metallwarenfabrik

GW - Győrffy és Wolf Fémipari Rt.

Fantastic!!

On 11/09/2023 at 21:06, unmo300 said:

GW - Győrffy és Wolf Fémipari Részvénytársaság.

Thanks unmo300,

i’m keen to pin these makers down if i can and this one wasn’t settled for me.

Can you expand on anything for me please? It would be great to have a reference to place on here if possible, 👍

I’m translating (from Hungarian) as

Győrffy és Wolf   - Győrffy & Wolf (names

Fémipari      -   Metallurgical 

Részvénytársaság - (joint stock) company

Is this  roughly it?

‘Győrffy & Wolf Metalwork Company’

8 hours ago, graham said:

Thanks unmo300. Very interesting, do you have any examples you can share?

Did you already have knowledge of Győrffy & Wolf and the GW mark?

A lot of questions i know, my apologies and thanks in advance!

tony 🍻

Ps

i wonder if i am related?? 😊

On 06/09/2023 at 23:01, WJT said:

The piece is one piece and very heavy, very industrial.

there two studs that we cut off. I looked for some significance to the J2 over 25 but have not found any. Thought it might be a date too but the date dos not connect to anything.

Thanks for the questions

Bill

👍👍.

Hi Bill,

re the back… i agree it seems a date seems unlikely, I think if it was a date then J2 isn’t really enough as it could be any one of jan, jun, July. & 1925 is a later date than you’d expect for an AH item. 

Also yes it clearly a ‘solid’ quality piece.

Sadly I can’t find anything relevant to help.
 

Last thought… If it wasn’t on a sub or boat maybe it was on a building? The curve perhaps for fitting to a pillar/column. 🤷‍♂️

best wishes 

tony 🍻

Taken from www.jstor.org

’The 17th Light Dragoons had been serving in India from 1808 , where it remained for fourteen years, embarking for home on 9th January, 1823. During its stay in India the regiment had been converted into Lancers.1 Immediately on arriving in England the change from Light Dragoons to Lancers was carried out’

1823 was spent re-equipping the new lancers with officers first as they purchased their own uniforms.

The design on the back of the button dates to ”circa 1925” so in this case I’d say 1823.

I think the button you’ve posted was an early officers private commission based on 👇a regular design for them at the time. There’s no record of it I can find.

A nice button indeed…

cheers

tony 🍻

Hi Bill,

it may be a bit more interesting than expected... i agree at first glance it seems a straightforward 17th Lancers but I cannot find one like this.

The 17th Lancers and, post 1922 I believe, The 17/21 Lancers button was like your example but not the same. 👇

You will notice ☝️ the skull and crossbones meet, this was the case with every example I’ve seen while looking so far today...

Not yours 

It needs a little more investigation 😊

Cheers

tony 🍻