Farkas

One site I found gave the address : 

17 Drummond Street, Montreal.

but, as you obviously already know it is a real bitch to find anything about them, usually when I check makers they are listed on ‘makers mark’ websites, Tansey isn’t listed on the ones I checked, I guess he wasn’t a jeweller so no particular mark was used… 

tony

On 10/04/2023 at 15:56, Jmh said:

Hi Sibfox,

 

These are Genthleman at Arms epaulettes from the Victorian period. 

 

Regards

Jmh 

I was looking the other night and found these pictures…

I even thought it might be customs or Royal Navy…

but in the end I had to give up!

so is good to find out.

nice one!

tony 
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From ‘Royal.UK’ website

Nice!

I’ll find the ad for the badge again, it was on Etsy or Pinterest and not period.

In meantime this was the source for activity during the Boer war…

tony

edit

i hope I didn’t get your hopes up with the mention of the ‘old’ advert.

You’re welcome Gordon. 👍

The focus of their thread is those round ww1 period badges (unless the pictures add to it.)

I think yours is earlier though…

I didn’t notice it before but I’ve got a feeling the crown on your badge is the King Edward vii design 🤔

The ‘still regional’ CPF was active during the Boer war, 1899 - 1902…  

This and the crown could date your badge to very early Edwardian.

tony

😊

On 11/07/2017 at 23:21, Farkas said:

Hi gents

these pics are on my uniform thread but I reckon it can also stand alone....

7 feet long waist worn - folded lengthways.

5 feet long ribbon/strap and 1 foot section either end

Tassels coloured gold to the exterior and black to the interior

More pics to follow

tony 

1812 : I think you have one with a box?

tony

I think the Scottish soldiers shown are the ‘Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders’

The uniform & headdress matches and the postcard mentions Argyll as well 👇

tony

Hi Peter,

a bit late but for the record…

M.B. is an RNVR rank

- Motorboatman

C.M.M. is an RNVR rank

- Chief Motor Mechanic 

and I can’t find anyone to match him, I have no paid access but usually still something even if I can’t access it 🤷‍♂️
 

He must still be on the medal rolls surely?

tony

Very impressive 👍

On 16/02/2023 at 15:01, Michael Johnson said:

Given its position it can't be either of these two clasps:

Northwest Frontier 1908

Abor 1911-12

 

Most likely are:

Afghanistan NWF 1919

Mahsud 1919-20

Waziristan 1919-21

or some combination of these three.

 

hello Michael,

from what you are saying , the India GSM would have been worn before the BWM&AVM if it had been awarded first?

I did not know that… 😊

👍

tony

Hi Gordon, 

there is a thread about CPF badges here👇 it has some links to pictures but I can’t access them, maybe you can?

https://www.britishbadgeforum.com/forums/showthread.php?p=33826&mode=linear

Try as I might I couldn’t find another badge like yours, I found one old ‘for sale’ page with a description for a badge seemingly like yours but there was no picture or additional information.

Last but not least 👇

The then Canadian coat of arms…

👍

tony

Nice seeing the Honour Legion Cross on its ribbon 👍👍

Hi Carlo,

This is a new one to me..,

do you why it was issued without the ribbon? (assuming it was)

I did have a good look through pictures on Google, only able to find another red one like yours 

Unfortunately the link didn’t work.

tony

That’s brilliant, it’s bugged me for years!

I was not expecting a gym club but glad I know, thanks for your help,

cheers

tony

I spotted this going cheap the other day, I had to buy it just to measure it!

Both arms have stripes, placement measures 195mm ( shoulder patch is 5mm off the seam) from the shoulder seam to the middle angle of the stripes

👇👇

Most interesting to find was the stripes are not placed centrally on the outside arm cloth panel. 👇👇. (Left sleeve) 

They are 45mm from the rear arm seam

and 80mm from the front seam…

The stripes themselves are 110mm wide.

👍

tony

11 hours ago, Graf said:

Nice boxes and for a good price.

most of them are for different medals

The red one with the text is for the Gold medal of the Order of the Crown

I used to keep some of the Orders that came without a box, especially the Knight Classes

Enjoy them

ah thanks, I’d been trawling Google looking for that one, I’d thought perhaps ‘medal of courage’… nowhere near!

cheers both 🍻

Hi Gents,

I was on eBay last night and spotted all these for 15 quid 🤷‍♂️ so I grabbed them.

The blue one looks similar to the ones above.

Are any of the others interesting Gents?

Any thoughts welcome Gents,

thanks

tony

Hi Carlo,

My first thought was the marks could have been on the ring but I just saw this in the hallmark thread…

if I’m reading it right, the 750 mark was added to small items in stock in 1867 and was seen alone like yours for just a few years after so dates it 1867-1870.

& If so perhaps that narrows down the possible makers a little 🤷‍♂️
 

On 15/02/2023 at 22:46, tifes said:

Difference between hallmark 60 and 61 is very slight. No 60 is for Hallmarking Office (Punzierungsamt) in Vienna and No 61 with "vertical line" (mit senkrechtem Strich) is for a Branch of Hallmarking Office (Filialpunzierungsamt) in Vienna I. This one was used from 1867 onwards but No 60 is very old one and was in use since 1807.

 

That lead us to 750 hallmark. There is no true that first hallmarking law was adopted just in January 1867. There were different regulations for hallmarking for different parts of Monarchy since 18th century. Bit messy and many small items like jewellery and orders were exempted. This changed with hallmark act of 1867 which unified the system for the whole Monarchy and introduced the obligation for all items to be hallmarked, even small ones made of precious metals. 750 is so-called "stock hallmark" (Vorratpunze) for 18k. gold pieces. In the hallmark act of 1867 it was stipulated that stocks of silver and gold items which had not yet been officially hallmarked were to be provided with a stock hallmark similar to the older regulations, provided that the precious metal content exceeded at least a quarter of the total value.This is why we see "750" hallmark sometimes alone, sometimes mixed with "new" hallmarks of 1867. So golden pieces made closely before or during the introduction of hallmark act 1867 plus some years on (like till 1870, still old stock used) could be seen with this stock hallmark of 750.       

cheers

tony

On 01/12/2017 at 18:41, Farkas said:

Hi Gents

a friend has a few items on the way. I usually get first refusal on some bits...

ive been looking around to Id these two. But not seen the first at all...

 

The first Looks like TSU?

- Tyrol Security / police unit - Ww2 

The second looks like an Albanian flag from '92 onwards but as Tyrol has used similar im not sure. Also the wing are a round design not straight top to bottom.

Any thoughts appreciated Gents...

cheers 

tony

Hello Felix,

I was just reading your post again, I look forward to hearing more 👍

you mentioned you live in Tyrol and it reminded me of this 👆patch (TSU or TSV?) that I have tucked away still.

My friend bought these items together from a friend in Tyrol, I was able to get the patch from her.

I was optimistic I would find out what it was but never have…

A long shot I know but I don’t suppose it is something familiar to you? 🤞

cheers

tony

I find his portrait disappointing.

He clearly doesn’t want to ‘bear the weight of the crown’ does he…  

I‘ve always supported the Royal Family & him as Prince of Wales (I’m 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿) but it’s gonna be hard to support him if he doesn’t like the British system he represents, he’s already making changes to the role of the Royals in the UK.

He’s long been political and won’t stop now, he’s clearly more interested in saving the planet than saving his subjects from oppressive Government intentions.

He’s openly a globalist, he himself announced he was launching ‘The Great Reset’ in conjunction with the World Economic Forum back in early 2020 when COVID had just kicked in. That said it all for me.

My King, the Commonwealth, my Government and it seems every other institution are all pushing the same woke global agenda.

As a Brit I never thought I’d be on the side of some revolution or be considered an ‘enemy of the state’ but when not just me but also the 🇬🇧 is considered offensive & racist in my own country… 🤷‍♂️ 

Something is gonna have to give.

😡

tony

ps The unique situation and traditional classy design of the 2023 Queen Britannia wins hands down for me… 🙃

On 22/08/2021 at 10:23, BalkanCollector said:

Silver costs a lot more than some other metals and these fakers just care about top profit.

For just another £10-15 in silver they could make more profit in the long run considering they are so convincing…

I wonder if the ‘mastermind’ trusted his elves to pour the silver and they robbed some? 
Does seem they got the hard bit done then messed up the easy bit.

Me again..

”was given to selected NCO’s, warrant officers and men of the Army and petty officers and ratings of the Royal Navy ”

There really can’t be many Women awards, I can’t find a number but the award criteria doesn’t offer the fairer sex much opportunity to get one…

I hope you didn’t chop that ribbon 1812

tony

Hello Overture,

“official jubilee medal of which over 4,000 were struck in bronze between 1887 and 1889” 

👉4,000

“The medals housed in red leather cases were issued…”

👉Red leather

Is yours leather ? 👍

I found this…

””This is the offical jubilee medal, made by L.C.Wyon after models by Sir J.E. Boehm and Sir F. Leighton, in 1887.
Although it was the official jubilee medal of which over 4,000 were struck in bronze between 1887 and 1889, this was very poorly received. The portrait of the Queen after a model from the life by Boehm, was generally disliked. Wyon used the same portrait for the obverse of the gold and silver jubilee coinage, but it was so unpopular that a new portrait was incorporated from 1893 onwards - also engraved by Wyon but after a portrait by Thomas Brock, R.A.
The medals housed in red leather cases were issued at the following prices: fine gold £13.13.0d; fine silver £2.2.0d; bronze 10/6d.

The jubilee was celebrated throughout the country. The festivities took many forms including local Fêtes, a yacht race round the island from Southend to Dover, bonfires, illuminations and a service of thanksgiving attended by the Queen at Westminster Abbey. The Queen also received 88,000 volunteers, the navy consisting of 135 vessels and 20,000 men. In Hyde Park a large number of poor school children gathered to watch balloons ascending and to receive gifts of bun, milk and a jubilee mug””

& personally…

I’d keep the ladies ribbon,

can’t be too many of those. 👍

cheers

tony

Hi DaffyD,

The cap badge on the right is definitely the ‘Staffordshire Yeomanry’ 

&

The one on the left, I think, is the ‘Norfolk Yeomanry’

I’m jealous!

tony

Hi Gents,

I’ve just picked this up, it isn’t my usual thing… I don’t even remember having a ‘Numbered’ regimental badge before.

 
I’m hoping someone can confirm it’s an original for me 🤞and that it is a ‘cap badge’?

I have to say there is something I really like about the look and feel of it, if this is original and is indicative of the style of the time… I may have a new habit to feed 🙃

As always any thoughts welcome Gents,

cheers,

tony