Farkas

that all took me a while !

I hope you Gents enjoy......

tony

Hi Gents

below are scans of the Soldbuch And Militarpak belonging to a man serving with Ersatz-Escadron-Dragoner-Regts Nr.1,

I believe he was a prisioner of war - the dates are all I can read...

His name looks like -Rohde- to me but that's about it from me

perhaps the wizards amongst you can make up the rest......

hope you enjoy,,,,,

((loads of scans to upload so will be editing for next 10min or so...))

Militarpak---------

Soldbuch_______

Hi gents

these are mine.....

No details of them sadly....

tony

Thanks both.,...

they belonged to the same man so perhaps his service covered the 1975 changeover

good to know....

tony

As a 47 year old that blows my mind!    I've got a few Canadian cap/collar badges, I think though only from 1900 on, I will dig out and maybe if of possible interest will post.

thanks again

tony

The lanyard is total length about 34 cm. it is made from one piece of cord. The centre braid is 15cm then one end is 10cm the other is 8.5/9.0 cm.

it went from a main tunic button to the shoulder.

picture 5 above shows the knotted end- a clever unstitched tuck knot. That end is unbroken just knotted then returns

picture 6 above shows the only stitching required to complete to work. It is discreetly tucked in the end of the braid work.

the balls are solid and bristly. Each end with puncture holes for the threading of the suspending cords/lanyard that allowed them to hang.

the two larger are 4cm diameter the odd one is 3cm in width.

i acquired these and the CDV together along with a number of Alpine related items -some military and some I suppose are not.

tony

32 minutes ago, QSAMIKE said:

Hi Tony......

I am not a helmet expert as they did not have them during the Boer War but I suggest you look at this......

http://thebrodiehelmet.weebly.com/military---canada.html

Mike

 

Thanks Mike, after quick read,even with my beer goggles on- that link is spot on. 

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You mention the Boer war- is that specifically your interest?

 I love postcards/pics of all sorts.

 I know somewhere I've got cards of scenes/uniforms that predate Ww1. I think I've even got some postage stamps of the like. Certainly vintage British Napoleonic themed illustrations of uniforms and antique late 19c German cards of all sorts....

if I dig them out would you or others be interested?

 if so, I would enjoy sharing them and would like to give you notice when they are up?

either way - I appreciate you replying to this.

cheers

tony....

Hi Mike,

glad you like it and....

thanks for the heads up.

(((Just between you and me....!... i got my nutsack burnt by asbestos in the mid 80's....)))

So I will take care as of now....,

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i don't suppose you could tell me the proper name for this ?

there is another thread about a Canadian mark II helmet- would this be one also?

i only know (think I know!) that Mark I is ww1 and mark 4 (Brit) was N. Ireland issue?

16 minutes ago, QSAMIKE said:

Hi Farkas.......

You have to be careful with these early helmets as some of them have found that the padding on the top it is made out of Asbestos......  Otherwise it is a very good helmet....

Mike

 

Cheers

tony

Hi Gents

I seem to recall this 1941 helmet has a '39 liner.  Helmet maker marked for 1941 but I can't see any markings on the liner - so perhaps to those who know there is a visual difference but I'm not one of them!

There is also a peculiar clearly ink stamped, arrow marking stamped in the crown inside - its pointing to the crown liner bolthole....

I cant see it being required for the purpose of finding the hole - you can't miss it - but maybe they didn't take the chance!

 Can anyone know of a further purpose for it?

It is in great nick with original paint and just a bit of wear.

It's nothing Too special I suppose but I think it's worth sharing with you.,..

hope you like it

tony

Hi. Gents

cant be sure if it is the case but this CDV is apparently the above award on the recipient....

sadly I could not get a name to go with it.

tony

Hi Gents

Some additional pics....

tony

Hi Gents 

Mismatched pair....j

Crowns differ so assume one old one new. ? Both very stiff metal. Backs different too...

I think these are 'Army' collar insignia..... 

tony

Hi Gents

some better photos...

tony

Thanks Demir

I do..... and will.... !

On 23/07/2017 at 15:56, demir said:

Nice, enjoy

Tony

Hi Gents

a talented man took time to make this - perhaps a Pow?

hope you like it....

tony

Nice find Jock

were there any clues as to his name? Do you know if he's amongst the  graves?

tony

On 21/07/2017 at 15:20, peter monahan said:

Hespeler Ontario is now part of the  Municipality of Cambridge, Ontario, west of Toronto, Ontario.

48% of the CEF were British born and many arrived here in the decae or so before the war as adults.

Two soldiers with adjacent serial numbers, both casualties - 602347 and 602348 - were part of 1st Machine Gun Company, which was a compnoenet of the 1st Cdn Division.  This gent apparently survived the war but if you wish to search the records at Library and Archives Canada you may be able to find when and where he died, as they did keep such records but they are not complete,  depending as they did on others to send in information of vetereans' deaths.

Info on the CMG: http://www.canadiansoldiers.com/corpsbranches/machineguncorps.htm

Thanks as always Peter

tony

8 hours ago, jf42 said:

PS. I have been told by a member of the British and Commonwealth Badge Forum that  in 'The History of The Cameronians (Scottish Rifles)' by John Baynes, there is a photograph of a Bugle Major wearing a  Rifles cap/ 'busby'. We don't as yet know which battalion or have a date for that.

I am intrigued.

 

hi Gents 

thanks for ongoing efforts....

i just found a picture on a Wikipedia page...

Tony 

GreyC

Quality photo. May be why the photographer got so popular.... - lovely.

tony

tony

Mike!

thank you ever so much. Really.

need to take a proper look but did notice this......

"Index finger missing off right hand"

thanks again

tony 

Hi GreyC

That's a really cool picture... !

what size is the card itself please?

tony

Hi Gents

please feel free to add your own posts to this thread if you wish as this is the only Canadian awarded medal I have.....

British War Medal awarded to : 602344 SJT. Thomas CMG Brigade....

(I believe he was a Brit btw...)

Tony

18 hours ago, BlackWatch said:

Hi Tony, 

The Cameronians (Scottish Rifles) have a museum in Low Parks Museum, Hamilton, Lanarkshire. They also may be able to shine a little more light on your object, but I think your fellow forum members have done a splendid job of helping out on this one.

I too think this busby was well used, and maybe even re-used, or parts of it salvaged to repair another, but despite it not being in good condition I still like the piece and it is a nice piece to the Cameronians, and especially considering it from about circa 1884-85 period.

I am now pretty positive that these busbies were only used by musicians (e.g buglers) of the regiment, it makes sense as this busby is named to a bugler. While in full dress, the Scottish Riflemen wore shakos, as did the officers of the regiment, but being a rifle regiment, it would make sense that their buglers at least would wear the busby, as the busby was worn by the King's Royal Rifle Corps, and several volunteer rifle units and was the full dress headgear of both other ranks and officers of those units. 

Whether you keep the busby or it finds a new home, a lovely and rare piece that should be preserved so examples of the busby to the Scottish Rifles do not cease to exist, great find. 

Regards,

-Jamie

 

 

On 17/07/2017 at 15:29, peter monahan said:

The survival of such items - busbys, bearskins, and so on - is frequently because regiments continued/continue to outfit musicians and/or colour parties in 'historic uniform' long after it has been superceded as general issue.  That might also explain the damage - a QM salvaging a plume holder to repair another similar pice in better condition than this one.   

On 12/07/2017 at 10:25, coldstream said:

Tony

Have just checked Ancestry UK site for Jacobs on the Military Campaign Medal and Award Rolls 1793 to 1949 with no direct match unfortunately, will keep you updated.

Simon

 

Hi Gents,

I'm keeping it now. Mine!

Thank you all.

Isn't it sad I only paid 30 quid for Bugler Jacobs' Busby. That seems wrong to me. Any personal thing like this should be respected... I thought it deserved better so I got it, but as I be sentimental I always was thinking it needed a home that  appreciated it more than I would. But not any more...  !!!!

So Thankyou All

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Jamie

when you mentioned The Cameronians I remembered a badge I have, age unknown,that I read up on before... and there was so much about them - History I ! 

anyway-

i didn't appreciate it before then But still do now...

(anyone still awake?).

so-

below is a couple of pics, probably sideways, of said badge....

 Shall I put these together....?

thanks everyone.....

tony

33 minutes ago, BlackWatch said:

Hi everyone, 

Although I cannot add anything to this, I would like to say despite this busby's bad condition, it is rare to find a named busby to the Scottish Rifles as I'm pretty sure only musicians of the regiment wore busbies (but I could be wrong there). I've personally only seen one for sale, and it was not named in a grouping, so nice find. 

Best regards,

-Jamie

Hi Jamie

First thanks for your info because it does support the case for a legit label - didn't know bout busby being less used.

And also - it is battered but I wouldn't change a bit if it!  I got it without knowledge of the labels. I loved the holes and tears and it was un loved so I grabbed it.... but

Perhaps it needs a new home mate..?

Do you happen to know if the  Sco Rifles have a museum of their own?

tony

Hi Gents

A little while ago i was looking for a period map - and got 5 for the price of 1 instead!

I say five - the book did originally contain six. the remaining maps are still in lovely condition. So I don't think this book saw much use in itself but I like to think the owner removed the map he actually needed to use.

tony