Duncan

Can someone tell me more information on these badges please. I can't find any information at all about them at all.

2 hours ago, 922F said:

See: https://www.bienpublic.com/actualite/2014/12/28/la-societe-d-encouragement-au-bien.

 

Also //gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/cb32732227j/date  

http://cths.fr/an/societe.php?id=100697   

 

Your medals represent honors awarded by a private organization recognizing a desire to value, celebrate the courage, dedication and volunteerism of all those who, on all fronts of society, work for good and sometimes at the risk of their lives.   The group. established in 1862 continues to exist.

 

Some of this society's decoration series acknowledge financial contributions. 

Thank you, that is very helpful. 

Can someone tell me a bit more about these French Medals for the National Society for the Encouragement of Good please. I can find very little on the Society and even less on why the medals were awarded and what the different types of medals were for - there seems to be a few versions s for that organisation.

I bought them recently, they don't really fit with the WW1 and WW2 theme of my collection, but they were so attractive I couldn't resist.

Hello, I noticed this odd combination of WW2 medals for sale. Both sets are mounted and doesn't look like they were recently mounted. Was it feasible to earn these combination of medals without also being awarded at least the 1939-1945 War Medal too?

Can anyone tell me if this badge relates to WW2 or not please? Looked on Google and a few sites say WW1 and others WW2, or course it could be neither?

Fantastic, thank you both.

Can someone please identify the ribbon on the left please.

1 hour ago, Elmar Lang said:

Hello,

 

for unknown reasons, one of the many bars for the Lybia medal was put on the ribbon of this Ethiopian Campaign commemorative medal.

 

All the best,

 

Enzo (E.L.)

Thank you for the information. I've had this medsl for the last year and only just noticed the bar is wrong!

Hi, I've had this in my collection for quite a while. Only just sunk in though that the bar is 1937 and the Ethiopia campaign ended in 1936. If it's therefore on the wrong medal can someone tell me which Italian medal it belongs on please?

1 hour ago, Shots Dave said:

Here is mine, the letters are BRFLO which I believe is for florentine bronze and the cornucopia

Hi, thanks for that. Just Googled 'Florentine Bronze', seems its a modern term for the metal its made from, so confirms its a modern made copy.

Hello, I bought this recently as a copy. Can someone tell me what the makers mark is on the ribbon loop please, it looks like EAPLO on the left arm and a cornucopia on the right arm.

On 30/09/2022 at 22:19, ShellBarry said:

This is my great uncle.  I did not get to meet him but I have heard great stories!  I actually have been trying to find any information out about this side of the family and it is very very difficult.  It is pretty cool to see his medal made it around the world!  Just curious where did you buy it from?

Hello, I bought it off a guy in the UK on Ebay. Shame it's not still with the family. Wonder how it came to be in the UK. Do your family have his other medals?

11 hours ago, VC89 said:

Seeing it in real life is always better but on the picture it looks fine to me. The medal and the cross do have some of that weird green in the top circle. But the image looks fine and the medal has some nice patina. Ribbon looks aged but kept under good conditions.

 

If I would have found it like this I would probably have bought it if it was sold at the right price.

Thank you.

Can I have people's views on the authenticity of this Croix de Yser please. I've not bought it or anything, l was just wondering on whether it's a copy or not. The green enamelling on the top circular part looked a little out.

Bit of a longshot but does anyone know where I can get a blue ribbon star for the silver Medaille Reconnaissance Française?

Been looking for years on Ebay and other sites without success. 

4 hours ago, Chris Boonzaier said:

I think maybe a regional medal for agriculture? Nothing national.

Yes, that's what I thought. The obverse seems to have been used on quite a few medals and plaques. 

On 16/08/2022 at 23:37, graham said:

Duncan, what is written on the reverse of the medal, cannot quite make it out from the picture.

That's the only photo I have I'm afraid. 

On 20/07/2022 at 14:15, peter monahan said:

Duncan

 

I believe the difference in naming is due to the fact that the 'Jodhpur Sardar Infantry' was the first Imperial Service /State Forces battalion raised by Jodhpur and the 2nd Infantry was a later - post WW1 - unit.

 

The Jodhpur Sardar Infantry was raised in 1922. During World War 2 it was in Eritrea and then it was part of the American 5th Army when it landed at Salerno in September 1943. Afterwards as part of the 10th Indian Division it operated along the Adriatic coast..  Here is a link to the 10th Division's organization and brief history: 10 Indian Infantry Division (1944-45) (britishmilitaryhistory.co.uk)

When the princely states were amalgamated with the Indian Union, the Bikaner Sadul Light Infantry and the Jodhpur Sardar Infantry joined the Rajput Regiment and became 19th and 20th battalions respectively

Hello, thank you for the information. 

Kind regards, 

Duncan.

15 hours ago, graham said:

Looks similar to:

 

1914 1916 WW1 French 37mm silver medal by Lagrange agriculture antique sower - the reverse is different though. There is one here on ebay:

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/254998941474

Yes, they seem quite common, but can't find any information on them.

Can someone please identify this medal and tell me what it was awarded for. Its dated 1916 but not sure its anything to do with the war.

Thank you,

Duncan.

Thanks everyone. Actually, I seem to remember asking this same question on this site a while ago. Sorry, my memory's going!

Could someone tell me please the award criteria for the Grande-Bretagne bar on the French WW2 Commemorative War Medal. Is it service with the Free French forces but solely in the UK, so no active service outside the UK during the war?

Hello, I've got a few 1939/45 Stars to men from the Jodhpur Infantry. Some named '2 Jodhpur Infantry SF' others 'Jodhpur Sardar Infantry SF'.  Anyone known the reason for the difference in unit name, and where and when they served?

Thank you, 

Duncan.

3 hours ago, Michael Johnson said:

The main site for matricules (service records) is: http://www.culture.fr/Genealogie/Grand-Memorial

 

The problem is that the archives are maintained by the various departements (like counties) in France, and they all have different search platforms.  Some will take you straight to the right document, others will give you another search window.  Also, given that there were often pieces of paper pasted onto these documents, there can be multiple images as they try to show all entries.

 

If you run into difficulties, give me a shout.  I'm fluent in French and have some familiarity with early 20th century French penmanship.  Plus I have a First War French site where I go for help.

 

Michael

 

 

Thank you, that's very kind of you.

54 minutes ago, Michael Johnson said:

At a guess: "Société La Philanthropique à son vice-président A. Alzon 1922"

 

This medal was awarded in 1920 to an Andre Henri Marie ANGERS in a differently-named society in Angers: https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k63713481.image.r=ALZON.f43.hl and later a silver: https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k6475969r.image.r=ALZON.f44.hl

 

Even if it is not the same person, I think you are looking at Angers, Main-et-Loire.  He was born in 1877, which would make him the right age.

 

His military record doesn't add much: https://archives-deux-sevres-vienne.fr/ark:/58825/vta9460e5f07dc1d60b/daogrp/0/1/idsearch:RECH_d7798c895919a73c6e96c9cded99e9e4?id=https%3A%2F%2Farchives-deux-sevres-vienne.fr%2Fark%3A%2F58825%2Fvta9460e5f07dc1d60b%2Fcanvas%2F0%2F61&vx=629.771&vy=-770.412&vr=0&vz=7.62463

 

The medal itself was given for services to societies that provided social support.  Mutual benefit societies are organizations that provide aid to reduce the impact of problems such as illness, disability, accidents, unemployment, death or, less often, retirement.

You got:

a certificate after 3 years

a bronze medal after another 2 years

a silver medal after another 3 years 

a gold medal after a further 4 years

with French medal classes "silver" and "gold" mean silver wash and gilt (vermeil).

Michael

That's absolutely fantastic, thank you. I had no idea French military documents were available. I'll run it through Google translate tonight - unfortunately my French is practically non-existent. Very interesting too about the medal. I was confused as to what mutual benefit societies actually were, thank you for clarifying for me.

Thank you again.

Duncan.