Christian L

while i was vieing the battushig book, it came to my mind, asking you, if you would collect the pins, badges and academy awards from mongolia.

i would compare them with german day badges (or at least something like this) - they are not that expensive, and you have a huge variety to choose from and they can be also very interesting.

let me know what you think!

christian

the "normal" suspension ones i had in hand where not as think and had some kind of "finish" - therefor they are, at least in my opinion, spangenst?cke for private purchase - but not as common as the issued ones.

christian

don't ask me why, but i like the mongol stuff

but i'm happy that i'm definately not the only one - so i would guess im still normal

christian

oh and yes, 1st type as well

the longer i look at this nice award, i now feel to post mine as well

THANKS MUCH TO ALL for their comments!

Didn't realiced the issue on the Sudetenland ribbon at first - but it would be very interesting to get more light in the dark of this award.

About the clasps i'm 100% percent SURE!!!

The quality is superb but sadly its not possible to show the polished fire gilding of them

And something i found at the weekend ...

(OMM no. 68 p. 36)

That i know what i have to look for!

and the hollow stamped wreath (its so flat, less than half a milimeter i'd say) but still detailed in superb quality

and now the enamel - its unbelievable what knowledgable juwlers made nearly hundred years ago

the battle clasps (the granular ground, the fire gilding and if you move them in the light - they are shiny like Fort Knox!!!!!!!!)

... oh i love them so much ...

and the reverse:

Today i realized, that you have to VISIT a dealer for seeing great stuff and picking up THE items you NEED!

(went out yesterday in the eavening and had a lot of fun - a little pain in the head today in the morning, but i KNEW why i had to get up and have to go to the "treasure cave" from Uwe Bretzendorfer) - i've seen a lot of nice items there , laying on the table and where only waiting for getting touched from my fingers - but than i saw the HOLY GRAIL

and even better, it wasn't sold until now - and so I GOT IT!!!

(if my budged will allow it - i'll visit him for sure more often and don't wait that long; like those famous words describe it best - The early bird catches the worm!)

But now i'll share the beauty with which Mr. Bretzendorfer made MY DAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'd like to know, which medals, orders and decorations from tunisia where awarded to german soldiers, politicians and civil people.

For any help, as pictures, literature notes, etc. i'd be very thanksfull.

christian

for an unknown reason i have this ribbonbar for attaching the award on the hook on the reverse - but what let me think a bit, was, which decorations could have been there in "former" times?

it have to be something inofficial (freikorps, regimental commemoration ... )

thanks much in advance christian

i really like this decoration as well, but for this amount of money, i'd definatly get something else - something BIGGER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

christian

intersting paperwork you have george!

tried to id the ribbons - but its very difficult, because there are many mongol ribbons which only differ in the color, but not in the way they "split the ribbon for adding the color".

will try it a little harder, but i don't think i'll be a real help!

christian

i'm looking for any information about the order nishan el iftikar from tunisia i can get.

for any help i'm very pleasend:

- web sites

- books and magazines

- pictures of examples

- pictures of examples in wear

- miniaures

- cases

- ribbons

thanks very much in advance christian

ps: here is one i have - arabic mm, and awarded under the rule of Sidi Ahmed (1929-1942)

i don't collect lithuanian awards, but the artwork on the documents and the "uncommon" design of their awards is fascinating!

and i think this is the reason why i have 4 or 5 books about lithuanian medals in my shelf - and they are GREAT!!!!!!

christian

ps: the document is, at least in my opinion, one of the best in artwork and design of the time it was issued

whats written on the bar of the medal in post #2?

christian

the hinge/pin constructions looks like steinhauer und l?ck from the 57er awards, or not?

i only know the "normal" type - never seen the other one so far.

thats THE PROBLEM - prices!!!!!!!!!

i would call me as a REAL starter - but money is short and not growing on the trees.

but i would never slaughter a bar - i'm "happy" if i get "parts" because they are affortable, but i can look into the mirror every morning and say, its the way i got it - but if i have to decide between having and slaugthering, i would say not having - otherwise i wouldn't enjoy the medal with knowing in which "neighborhood" it could be.

but does anyone of the "older" generation have an idea about getting new blood into collecting (collecting frontfighter crosses can be nice but for many it isn't!)

christian

stogieman

i calculated the price on the everage "market"

if you find those guys - you sure can get more - but the "normal" marked will never pay the price for rare and unusal items (thats the feeling i got)

mr. research

yes - but how about trying to get all the nameings together (with dates) will this leed to a solution

i don't think so

but hey - do we want to know everything? there should be something left for further generations

christian

don't try rick - if someone was born as an idiot, your not above god, allah (or however you want to call him/it) - those people will stick to what they are.

and they can be happy - because they are so stupid they don't realize it - and something i thought very long (much longer than i thought about some copies of the battle clasps of the Kolonialdenkm?nze - its never possible to change something/anything - try to live with it and make it better - perhaps than something changes - or not, but don't tell others that they are stupid, idiots, ... than they'll never change - give them yourself as an example how something can work, and this have to be enough)

anyway, as long as we keep history as what it is, we do the best in this world - (and who knows, if the guy gets a few "nice" fakes into his collection - and is happy about it, do you want to tell him - i don't - because if no one asks me about comments, i don't give them, and every one is happy )

hope its not offending what i wrote - but thats the life - at least what i think about after those 20 years i stay here.

christian

i'd say around 50.- to 55.- euro (because of the damage to the 70/71 medal and that the last one is not official)

but a nice find for sure

christian

thanks christophe - added a close up of the last ribbon (i would guess lippe - because of the golden "wire" in the borders)

but no idea on the decoration which is represented by the ribbon in this case.