Christian L

first time i've seen an award document (even if its only a vorl?ufiger ausweis)

but all had the date of awarding!

is someone able giving light in the dark?

christian

will the last be the most important one?

thats what i'm thinking about this big ribbonbar - you as well?

don't think its possible to id the owner, but at least i think its nice to have a look at it.

christian

perhaps for recieving the medal for rescue under fire

but FOR SURE a nice mini

christian

Mate-Zalka-Commemorative medal (photos credited uwe bretzendorfer)

don't know much about it, but as no one of those was posted, i thought i'll do.

hy joe,

in my opinion this cross is the only possible candidate for your last ribbon.

for the unit - not easy to answer question, because to my knowledge there is no one who id'd the system behind the ribbon color and clasp association.

christian

and a cross mounted on a bar

like rick said - not a real problem about the 2nd medal

but the 3rd is definately the treue dem regiment cross - and for the hole in the ribbon - the unit clasp

added a pic of the medal (various ribbons are used - here the same one like yours, and also MANY different unit claps exist)

christian

nice medalbar joe, but i would tend to say, that the last medal (most probably treue in der arbeit from saxon, model from friedrich august) is wrong.

from the ribbon its more likly the treu dem regiment cross (have a close look at the upper part of the ribbon if there are holes in it for the unit clasp - if not, i was worn without)

but anyway

christian

have seen this one only a handfull of times in the literature but never held one in my hand.

my knowedge on the award and this particular cross is limited, perhaps i can get some help of you guys

thanks much in advance christian

yes, thats sure - no possibility to be an issued medal!

but compared to the price of real golden ones and the look of the medalbar a definately better "spacefiller" than g?de awards

christian

interesting question on the silver-gilted and real golden one.

what makes me thinking, that it might be good is, that the bar was made by a big supplier of medals, decorations and ribbons ... after the first ww.

so the owner was able to have the gold value of the issued example (perhaps for selling) and a shiny one on the medalbar as well. (like the typical spangenst?cke)

so if you get a silver-gilted one with documents and other awards and the seller states that its an issued and original one - than i would say MADE UP GROUP

but if you get one on a medalbar (not the home-made style typ - the tailor made ones) than the possibility is bigger of being good - at least in my opinion (because of the reason given a few lines before)

christian

1.) (if this is a mecklenburg-schwerin medal, i have no idea on it)

2.) prussian crown order medal

3.) saxonian friedrich august medal (seems to be silver grade) on peace time ribbon

4.) reuss golden or silver merit medal

5.) austrian silver merit cross

6.) (no idea - thought was tukish ...)

7.)denmark "belohnungsmedaille"

8.) russia (most probably a merit medal)

9.) prussian centenial medal

and who is it? (to go on with more questions )

christian

so the first thought flashing up in my brain should be correct - china?

as a sanit?ter?

but shouldn't he be able to get the steel china medal as well? (as some kind of "suporting" guy?)

so what do you else have from him?

let see it!

christian

only a side question - but where did the owner recieved the medal 1901 and why?

christian

no more comments?

and one more - if you need some others, let me know!

ok, now i can present better pics

thanks joe and heiko!

yes - but do YOU want to tell me, that you need this clasp?

i would guess, that you have this one twice or a tripple?

christian

normaly they have a pin - but you find them sewn on medalbars as well.

the enamel long service award is the "expensive" brother of those issued ones with removed needl system sewn on medalbars

christian

not that big - but i really like it

sadly no mm on the bar.

not that spectacluar from the front - but the reverse is not "usual" i think

i'm watching often threats about medals i don't know much - and so i don't post, but in general, i wouln'd buy from someone who is not giving return rights (if the stuff is ok - if its a cheap medal or expensive group - he/she can give return rights without problems)!

thats the way, i made my experiance (because out there is everytime someone who knows the stuff better than you - and so you would never made a big win)

christian

forgot to say, that you should have a close look at the wreath to the long service medal - such a "nice" one

i definately don't like the catch and the huge amount of devices.

the red eagle order crown coming to my mind was enameld - and not an ordinary crown like here

the color of the long service eagles is also a bit

i don't like it.

christian