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    Wild Card

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    1. Hi Chris,

      I notice that the piece on the left in posts #1 and #2 has a “pie shaped” suspension; a type that I believe had been discontinued long before Jacobs received his award. So I doubt that this would be the piece that he received as an original award.

      I find your reference to “the bright one was given to Jacobs post war by a Navy ace, and the crown is soldered onto the cross itself” very interesting. According to Neal OConnor (private conversation) Jacobs and Friedrich Christiansen, who happens to have been a navy ace, were very close friends; so it may well have been Christiansen, and not Osterkamp (post #33) who gave him “the bright one”. 

      Les notes in post #33 that “During the 1930's he started an aviation firm, and then relocated it to Holland after the Nazi's came to power. He did not want to do business with them and was outspoken in his opinions of the NSDAP and it's members”. Now according to Neal, it went something like this. During the twenties or thirties, Jacobs created a company that made parts and equipment for the aircraft industry. One day, he received a visit from his old acquaintance, and fellow ace, Hermann Goering who was so impressed by the operation that he, shall we say, asked be given a piece of the action. To make a long story short, Jacobs told him where to go, closed the shop, moved to the Netherlands reopened his business and continued on until the war broke out.  

      Again, Les further notes that “During WWII, he held a reserve major's commission without a leadership role.” With regard to this, Neal said that at this time, Jacobs (and I assume his family) “went underground” and his safety was assured by the military governor of the Netherlands who was none other than his old friend… Friedrich Christiansen. I must say that this point is certainly debatable; but I felt that I should pass it on. If he was, in fact, given a reserve major’s commission during the war it should be easily proven.

      Chris, I’m sorry to say that I also have a real problem with that award document in post #26. Let’s just say that, among other things, it looks too fresh and is too different from the standard PLM document.

      Finally, for a comparison, below is what Friedrich Christiansen came up with when he received his fifty year crown membership.

      Best wishes,

      Wild Card
       

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    2. Gentlemen,

      Now for something a little (no pun intended) different which I don’t think that I have posted before. Here, we have a miniature to the Saxony-Coburg-Saafeld 5th army corps vol. officer’s medal, 1814. 130 of these medals were awarded in 1815.

      Unfortunately, I cannot get a clear image of the iron center but can state that all of the lines of text on the reverse are identifiable and at least half of the text is actually readable under a magnifier.

      Regards,

      Wild Card

       

       

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    3. On May 6, 2016 at 12:20, Streptile said:

      In my opinion this piece is most probably a good Red Eagle Order that has had swords attached to it by a collector some time long after the war.

      One can't discount the possibility it is a Spangenstück but it strikes me as farfetched, and anyway: who wants a Spangenstück for $700?

      Here is an original award type RAO4X with correct swords, hollow gold and screwed into the order's cylinder.

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