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I'm not sure that this guy wear the SA3aX. I think he wear the SA3a.

He is a Major/Oberstleutnant and wear the Officer Cross with swords.

He should have the SA3aXK at this rank and not the SA3aX on his bar.

And i can't see the crown on the top of the SA3a. So i soppose this is a pre war award of SA3a on the wrong position.

Regards Alex

Thanks JB

To illustrate I show, one more time, a photo of one officer with SA3aX

Christophe

Hi Chris,

yes it is named. Belonged to Lt. O. Kaiser from UR 11. Sometime in 1917 he changed to air service. I have him 1918 listed on air servive.

Still not known if he was pilot or observer. I suppose he was observer.

Regards Alex

Nice uniforms showed here. It's not my collection area but i own to nice WW1 unifoms.

Here the first.

Ulanka M10 from Ulanen Reg. Nr 11 to an Lt. who later changed to air service.

Not the best presentation, sorry.

Regards Alex

Hi Jim,

like Christophe wrote Oskar von Boenigk got also the

Ritterkreuz 2.kl. Mit Schwertern zum Sachsen-Ernestinischer Hausorden on 16.11.1914 prior to his aviation service,

Ritterkreuz mit Schwertern zum Hausorden von Hohenzollern on 14.08.1918

Pour Le Merite on 25.10.1918

and the wound badge

First he was an observer and got the badge on 24.05.1916.

So this is a bad display.

Regards Alex

Here the german text:

Die Abzeichen konnten auf Antrag sowohl an Offiziere, Deckoffiziere, Unteroffiziere als auch an

Mannschaften die als Luftschiffbesatzungen gedient haben und mindestens eine

einjährige Tätigkeit auf fahrbereiten Frontluftschiffen nachweisen konnten, verliehen werden.

Bei Verwundung oder Unfall im Luftschiffdienst die eine weitere Verwendung unmöglich machte sowie

Gefangenahme oder bei ganz besonderen Leistungen konnte von der Zeitbedingung abgesehen werden.

They have to be part of crews (Kommando) of air ships for more than 12 months. That means only crew members could

apply this badge. No ground personal or Feldlufschiffer (ballon units). But this is the theory.

The rules incl. exception criterias like wound during a flight or capture by enemy or exceptional performance.

I have a group of navy air shiper who doesn't belong to a Kommando and got the "Erinnerungsabzeichen für Luftschiffer". I Have a picture of him wearing this badge.

Another case is a Hptm from Feldluftschiffertruppe who also got this badge.

That makes vary difficult to say how many badges been awarded at that time.

I think many of the guys doesn't get the badge because not met the the Criterias or even because they died during the service. Other got the badge without met the criterias.

Regards Alex

Vary nice pictures Kevin. Thank you.

I would like to see this nice museum too. Maybe once i make a trip to Bucuresti.

Regards Alex

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I have only a few of this old bars.

Here one with ribbon bar from WW1 of an navy officer. This one have to leave. Maybe someone are interested.

Regards Alex

I know that this thread is some years old but maybe for interest, here some infomration about Olt.d.R. Pohrt

Lt.d.R. Pohrt Kommandiert zur II. MFA zur Ausbildung. Danach zur HSS Tondern am 12.06.1915

Olt.d.R. Pohrt (LFA) Landfliegerabzeichen am 28.12.1915

Olt.d.R. Pohrt (LFA) Kommandiert nach Johannisthal am 18.03.1916

Olt.d.R. Pohrt (LFA) Kommandiert zur FS Hage am 10.05.1916

Olt.d.R. Pohrt (FestFS Wilhelmshaven (Leiter)). Kommandiert zur II. SFA zum Umschulen auf Seeflugzeuge am 08.06.1916

Olt.d.R. Pohrt Kommandiert zur SFS Varna (Bulgarien) am 13.09.1916

Olt.d.R. Pohrt (II. SFA) Seefliegerabzeichen am 16.09.1916

HSS = Hallenschutzstation

LFA = Landfliegerabteilung

SFA = Seefliegerabteilung

SFS = Seeflugstation

Here some further information but i am not sure if it is the same Pohrt but possible:

Lt.d.R.M.I. Pohrt Beförderung zum Olt.d.R.M.I am 20.06.1915

Olt.d.R.M.I. Pohrt Kommandiert als Leiter einer SFS am Schwarzen Meer. Verteilung regelt Kvt.Kpt. Stubenrauch am 03.01.1917

Olt.d.R.M.I. Pohrt Ehrenpreis für Vernichtung eines russischen Dampfer am 07.01.1918

Olt.d.R.M.A. Pohrt Kommandiert zur SFS in der Türkei am 13.04.1918

Regards Alex

Is yours also stamped on the Ring with "333"?

Regards Alex

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It is the most awarded of the highst award for NCO from all four kingdoms (Bavaria, Prusia, Saxony and Wuerttemberg).

Here my "333" GMMM.

Regards Alex

My one and only Dog Tag.

Fliegerabteilung 12

The MVM is silver gilded, isn't it?

It's not the awarded one.

Regards Alex

I'm sure Flöl got the SF3bX. The list is not complete.

Hans Frhr von und zu Fraunberg died on 26.09.1941.

Regards Alex

Not unique but rare.

maybe Lt. Otto Flöl (FA A 277)

Regards Alex

I'm looking for infomation to Maschinist Simon. During WW1 he was an engineer at the imperial naval air ship service (Marineluftschiffertruppe) and flow with SL8 from Apr. 1916 - Mai 1917 under commander KptLt Guido Wolff.

He got the saxon merit cross (Ehrenkreuz) with swords on 02.11.1916.

I would be vary glad if someone can give me some more infoamtion on this guy.

Regards Alex

Alex is right, something fishy going on here. I would be very surprised to see the award of a silver Becher this late in the war.

Yep, he had the victory late 1917 on 23. Sept. and got the Ehrenbecher Oct 1917. It should be an iron one.

Regards Alex

A Ehrenbecher in silver worth about 8000EUR. This are not realy rare. There are about 3-4 at german dealers for sale now.

I suppose the two documents of Falke and the pic don't worth more than 1000EUR.

Of course an Ehrenbecher related to a famous person worth more but this is hard to proof is this doesn't come directly from the family.

Regards Alex

Usually Ehrenbecher had no engraving so who knows where was the original owner. The documents are from Falke, so maybe the seller put the Ehrenbecher to those documents for better selling. More than 15.000EUR for an Ehrenbecher and two documents are a vary high price.

This is only my Theorie but fact is there are two Ehrenbecher related to Falke so one could not be him.

Regards Alex

I'm a little bit confused because i know a collector who bought the Ehrenbecher of Richard Falke many years ago at a german auktion. It is engraved. So one of this two don't belong to Richard.

Regards Alex

Hi Chris,

because your website is to small at the foot of your post. Now i found the link.

Great page, realy great. Many information.

Regards Alex

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Nice looking medal.

Here a period issued piece in silver with "J.RIES" hallmark.

Regards Alex

Thank you.

I think it's not Hptm Abt. Maybe the next Leader.

Regards Alex