jaba1914

Hallo Fergus,

do you think the left one in the first row is an original?

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Alex

A small selection of Erinnerungsabzeichen (retired pilot badge). This type of badge is a little thin in my collection for some reason,I am looking for a issue stamped Juncker of the same ,anyone have one for sale !! The badges are 800 silber Juncker piece (why is it that all Juncker marked retired badges have the C E Juncker mark erased just leaving the crescent and 800? All the ones I have seen are like that . Why ?? The other ones are tombak Maybauer and a screw back which if you look closely has a battered air gunner badge crown replacing the existing one. Maybe he had his damaged air gunner crown put on to his retired badge for remembrance ? The halbgrosse is 800 silber. The cloth embroidered piece is interesting and one of my favorites, it measures 140mm by 90mm maybe from a veterans flag or pennant or even an Ordenkissen for a dead pilot. Chain stitched in german colours red,white and black.

Ferg1.

Hi Fergus,

can you show the back of the screw back piece.

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Alex

Thank you all for your help. Have someone a picture of him.

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Alex

Have someone a picture of him out of a book or another source.

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Alex

Heres a weird one to round off the marine badges. Army observer badge in tombak by Maybauer with factory fitted screw-back ,no pin ever fitted.(missing screw plate).Then fire gilded ??? Strange! The badge came direct from a German family who can only remember that the recipient was in a Luftschiffer Crew,the plot thickens !! I cannot believe that someone would mess around with such a rare badge (factory screw-back) to try and enhance its value,so I must assume it was done earlier rather than later.Gilding shows signs of verdigree and wear to highpoints. Interesting talking point. Any clues anyone?? Ferg1.

Of course a vary strange piece. Looks like a Maybauer gilded army observer badge. It is vary interessting that the plate is not gilded only the badge. I don't thing he was an navy officer. Maybe he was an early army observer later changing to the Luftschiffer. But why gilded?

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Alex

Ok ,here are some more,this time the flying boys,top two are land pilot badges by Hugo Schaper,left is a solid silver example (rare) has seen a bit of life judging by the wear,next to itis an interesting four piece badge of the same. Badge has been altered to a screw fitting and re-gilded ,I guess after the screw post was soldered on. The screw disc is marked Hansen ,maybe they did the alteration? I think the cross shaped plate was added to give more ' grip ' to the fitting.The main back plate ,when studied closely, shows several ' spin ' marks from various fitting devices. Bottom is a Schaper sea pilot badge,unmarked but definately Schaper. Ferg1.

Great, great.

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Alex

Here are some marine observer badge variations to look at. Top left is a well used badge by Hugo Schaper of Berlin. Originally a standard pin fixing it has been ' field altered ' to a double screw disc fixing. Next to that is another screw fixing badge in some sort of bunt metall (this badge is in Niemanns 2nd ref.book) has a scratch engraving on reverse ' CZECH ,FahnzS. it too started life as a pin back but now sports a later oval TR plate and screw. Third is a nice hollow two piece Maybauer in 900 silver,marine badges are rare in two piece form, and of course the half-size piece in 935 silver.

Ferg1.

Oh my god i'm blind. realy great collection of aviation badges. Thank for show.

I'm looking for the next one.

Alex

Great bagdes. I love it. To posses 4 of those rare pieces is a miracle.

Thank you for share this with us.

Alex

Hi Alex - without my references with me its hard to recall the different styles - I believe that this is a 1917 model (?). Probably a parade style tuinc. Certainly looks very period and typical. The shoulder patch was added post war when the practice became more popular for reunions, veterans day parades and such... The patch is for the 91st Infantry Division. Here is a nice site on the history

<a href="http://members.aol.com/ItalyWW2/Division91.htm" target="_blank">http://members.aol.com/ItalyWW2/Division91.htm</a>

Once again the tunic shown here is missing the collar devices - these were cut out style pins (crossed rifles, artillery, etc...) with a unit number added. They were rather large and looked like they would snag on just about anything.

Bullion captains bars and the overseas stripes (3 = 1 1/2 years overseas service) are very period and desireable. Are these your items? Nice collection you have started there!

Thank again. this is not my main collection, but i like the US uniforms of WW1 especially aviation. Because i collect imperial german aviation.

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Alex

Thank you vary much hunyadi. You are a great help. I learned a lot about US Uniform.

What about this one. It should be an officer wool gaberdine tunic.

It`s this tunic an original WW1 or are any doubts? What model it is?

Avers

Side

inside

Collar

Label

Thank Alex

How does the aviation patch looks if he were an Sergeant?

Have someone a overview about the US aviation ranks and patches in WW1?

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Alex

From what I can see - the unifomr is original. Missing the collar discs. The aviation patch looks original to the tunic as it looks 'imbedded' into the wool of the sleeve. The Aviation patch (or any other patch in that location) was denoted to indicate the rank of "Private". The chevron in the middle of the left sleeve is the "discharge" stripe: meaning he could wear the uniform for some time after being discharged from the armed forces (this way the Military Police would be less likely to pick you up for appearing to be AWOL) the silver stripe below that indicates 6 months of overseas duty. What is nice to see is that it is sans a 'unit pacth' or SSI on the left sleeve as well. This was a common practice AFTER the war (though some divisions created theirs during the war hence setting the precidence). The unifomr was worn on the troop ship home, had a drink at the local pub and then hung it with care in the closet for nearly 80 years....

Thnak you hunyadi for your oppinion. How does the collar discs look like. I want complete this one.

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Alex

Hallo gentlemans,

need your help about this tunic.

Is this an original period WWI tunic?

Wich rank was the owner?

What does the aviation patch means?

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Alex

Opinions please ??

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steve

not to keen on the shape of the eagle or its tail feathers...and the cross on the crown...maybe wrong as iam still learning from here !!!! anyway let me know what you think ..cheers once more ..

I don`t like it. Never seen an original like this.

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Alex

PS: i sent you a PM

Windjacke... I hate to post picture on these forums... sometimes I post them and after I reply on my latest posting it disappears!!!!

Vary interessting. I live in Baden-W?rttemberg and never was on this exposition.

Thank you for showing this pictures.

Alex

Here my little contribution. To keep this thread alive.

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Alex

It's too bad there isn't SOME sort of reference book on German court jeweler marks. The old standard in English is "Court Jewelers of the World" by Jeffrey Jacob, and it is in desperate need of an update. I would be happy, however, just to see someone cover German jewelers alone.

Tim

Good morning Tim,

i possess an imperial german observer badge made of Silver with this square mark. Me bagde is an issued original.

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Alex

This is an NCO medal bar.

The Silver Medal of StHeinrich:

4. Modell 1840- 1918.

Ca. 152 awards in Gold.

Ca. 80 awards in Bronze gilded 1917/18.

Ca. 9500 awards in Silber.

Hi Stogieman,

Many thanks for the additional information. I have to agree that this would have to be the ultimate St. Henry bar and that to find such an old piece on a bar is really beyond the norm.

I am confused on one point though; and, as you know, being virtually ignorant of Saxon awards (too much for me), I imagine that there is a logical answer. In post #52, you mention that the St. Henry RK is an 1870 model. To me, it looks very much like the one in posts #43 and #44 where the crown is fixed to the cross, which I always thought was a circa 1810-15 piece. Further, I had understood that the 1870-1 crosses had a separately hinged crown like the one below. Where am I going wrong on this?

Best wishes,

Wild Card

Hallo WC

The NC seen on post #43 and #44 where also awarded 1870/71 and to begin of the WW1.

Look on "Die Orden des K?nigreiches Sachsen" from Weber / Arnold / Keil.

On Page 264 and 269 you see the bar of Oberst Hermann Rudolph von Keller who got the NC 1970 and Generalmajor Charles Garke who got his NC 1914. Both NC on the bar is like the on on post #43 and #44.

Thank for show this beautiful pieces.

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Alex

Thank you all for your help. Have someone a picture of him.

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Alex

Hallo gentlemen,

can someone help me find informatition about this officer. All infos i have are:

Rittmeiter Busche-Streithorst served in K?nigl. S?chsischen Garde-Reiter-Regiment (G.R.R) until 1917.

EK2 (11.09.14)

AO2X (?.10.14)

MStHO (?.04.16)

Braunschweig KVK (13.04.16)

Beobachter Abz. (13.07.15)

EK1 (05.05.16)

Eiserner Halbmond (?)

I have unconfirmed information that he died Dec. 1917 in Palestine.

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Alex

And some did for sure.... here's one of my favorite pix. The General (one of 11, we never figured it out better than that)

I love the StHeinrich. We have the same passion. Can you post a picture from the NC right to the comander. Is this a GOLD one?

Thank for sharing

Alex

Hallo Miguel,

vary nice bars. Are those bars identified. Can you tell us thoowner of the bars?

Alex

Yes, I see.

I was misleaded by the shape of the shoulder-boards, which look like they are pointed.

But You are both right of course, he's just a regular bavarian pilot.

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Robert

Vary nice picture of an bavarian NCO with pilot badge, EK 1, EK 2, and bav. MVK.

congratulation.

Vary nice and of course rare miniature. I wish i had such an beauty in my collection.

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Alex

The statistical odds of finding one specific officer's ribbon bar in 2008 would be about the same as winning millions in the lottery....

i never know that this combination is so rare.

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Alex