MASteel

...and the last. No other pics available, WD stamps digit/letter for the year is non-readable.

3rd

...2nd pic

Hello all,

I've a change to buy this but seek for an advice from the wiser collectors.

Seller says it's a Tam o'Shanter and sure looks like a one, at least for a newbie like myself!

Year stamp can not be read.

Does it have any change?

Any indication about the manufacturing era?

Here are pics...

Thanks,

Miikka

Great reference, even better that you posted it! I take that it's pretty rare to find...?

British headgear starts to tempt me more and more... !

...and 3rd. Sorry about the bad pic quality..

Top bar is not from the same recipient as the lower one. I've this former Jäger's original 2nd bar too but it has few post war awarded ribbons which makes it not good for Continuation war display (he originally received those two awards too but VR4 was awarded w/o swords).

Cheers,

Miikka

...and here is another one, with few other badges

Hi all,

I won this little beauty last week in a auction. Love it because it not so common with the Ehremkreuz on finnish

ribbonbars and probably all the exiting has ow´ners that where once in the Preussian 27th Jaeger Rgt.

First Bravery Medal II class (probably 1918) Then Winter war medal wo swords (service behind the front?) and last Ehrenkreuz (missing swords but I´ve seen that before , maybe they didn´t have any similar swords ?)

Backside is a quite unique fastening

Christer

Hello Christer!

Nice ribbon bars you have!

Just to mention that many Finns who helped/were attached to German Baltic Division (which came to Finland to fight against reds/bolsheviks) during the Liberation war received Ehrenkreutz. So unfortunately all ribbon/medal bars with it are not automatically from JB27 member.

That fastening btw is actually not too rare to find, especially on ribbon bars holding 1-3 ribbons.

Keep up the good work!

-Miikka

PS.

Here you have a "salad bar" for a former JB27 member, later lieutenant-general

Yes indeed, those two really look alike!

Thanks Leigh!

Thanks Stuart, will add those to my search! And thanks for the bookfinder address, had it bookmarked in my old computer but it got lost...

Cheers!

Miikka

Thanks again Stuart, will do some searches!!

Cheers,

Miikka

Indeed Stuart, too much would be lost..

After I've completed my display I'll post it.

I do have quite a big collection of Finnish uniforms and some German TR era Waffenrock's. Just recently I also started to pick up some British/Commonwealth items and I'm finding this area more and more interesting due to regimental differencies etc. Downside is that in here availability of British uniform items, even at military shows, is non-existent. No changes even to handle real things...

I've bought some books that have been recommended (two volumes of "From D-day to V-day" and another two volume series "The World War II Tommy") but I'd like to get more information, also about better dresses from the WW1 - WW2 era. Could you recommend some books?

With best rgds,

Miikka

Miikka,

I googled Compton and variations and found both Compton & Sons and Compton, Sons & Webb. From this I conclude that the two firms combined, or one took over the other. They still exist today, making uniforms etc., as Compton Webb.

I also found J. Compton & Sons, Compton & Sons and Compton, Sons & Webb as button manufacturers with photographs showing the three names.

It would therefore seem that the stamp is correct in all examples that you have shown.

I collect British Military headgear 1768-1942, see Collectors' Showcase if you are interested, but could never get excited over a General Service Cap or "Cap, Ridiculous" as it was dubbed, but thank god that we all have different tastes as otherwise much would be lost

Stuart

Thank you Stuart for your advice!

And thank you VERY much pointing me to see your collection.... So far I've gone through first 4-5 pages and your collection continues to amaze me, post after post.... and also the variety of regimental headger that has been used!!

Well, after seeing your interest I don't wonder why "Cap, Ridiculous" does not tempt you at all and I think that's why your collecting era stops at 1942 But I've a late WW2 batle dress which needs a top ;o)

Gotta work for a while but must go back and see your amazing collection soon..!

Thanks again,

Miikka

Hello all,

Still struggling while trying to learn something from the HUGE area of British military headgear!

I was offered a General Service Cap almost in unused shape. Then today I browsed eban and found one similar cap + one older field service cap with same makers stamp.

Here is the General service cap at ebay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/WWII-British-General-Service-Cap-Dated-1945-/270575212021?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3eff8a15f5#ht_500wt_1182

Is this cap ok? Is the stamp ok? Starting price seems bit high, or what do you think? And cap badge is not included..

And here is the Field Service cap at ebay, same maker though stamp is not the same:

http://cgi.ebay.com/WWII-British-Artillery-Cap-Hat-dated-1939-Mint-/130389240780?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e5bcdebcc#ht_500wt_1182

Again, is the stamp ok? Cap looks good even if the badge is not in correct place...collector/seller don't want to make a hole for it which is understandable.

I'm not going to bid on either of these caps, just curious about the maker... And both above mentioned caps are in non-issued shape as is the one offered to me.

Hey, at least I've learnt the official names of these two cap types

Finally, below is the stamp from the GS cap offered for me. Even size is the same as on the one offered at eban.

Are these ok??

Thanks & rgds,

Miikka

Oh yes, finding a lose matching color toorie = Mission Impossible...

Need to ask for better pics to see if there is a hole visible. If not, then maybe it was never completed (shape described as "virtually unissued") and was not issued..?

Thanks again!

-Miikka

Ok Graham, thanks for your help.

So if one is offered for sale without a toorie then it has fallen off...

Is a toorie sewed to the top with few stitches of sewing thread?

Thanks,

Miikka

Hello,

Did any regiment (during the WW2 era) wear a Tam O'Shanter or Balmoral without a toorie (ball/tassel) on top?

With rgds,

Miikka

I mean with the battle dress!

Hello,

Did any regiment (during the WW2 era) wear a Tam O'Shanter or Balmoral without a toorie (ball/tassel) on top?

With rgds,

Miikka

Thanks all for your help!!

Ok Alex, thanks for your help!

I'm afraid it's not mine but I'm trying to buy it from the owner before he places it into internet auction. So I try to figure out a fair offer for the current owner! So is 500 fair?

Thanks,

MASteel

Hello,

What would be fair offer for an Order of Red Star with low number 18676? I searched web and found many different prices for originals, depending mostly about number ie. time of issue.

Enamel is intact. Order is said to be Finnish vet's war souvenier.

Thanks in advance,

MASteel

Hello again Miikka,

I will not be much more helpful for the moment...

It is a rare, interesting id'd badge, the owner could have been a general in ww2 ...

Sure that the design did not survived ww2, and the current design is different.

In my point of view, the price depends of the name of the owner ... I will try to find more informations.

Best regards .. Herve

Hello Herve!

I know that recipient was not a general during/after the war!

With rgds & thanks,

Miikka

Hello Miikka,

I confirm your identification ... ESM = Ecole Superieure de Guerre

Best regards .. Herve

Thanks Herve!

Do you have any other information regarding this badge:

How rare it is, how long this design was used and what would be fair price for it?

Thanks,

Miikka

...here is the reverse (recipients name removed as requested by current owner).