JohanH

Thank you for the pictures. 

I have seen this type of grey box before but I can't remember what medal was in it. 

It could be as you say that it's a box bought before the award ceremony to use as a presentation box instead of the boring little yellow box. Or maybe the awardee was so proud of his  medal that he bought a generic case at Carlman. 

I will dig up a picture of my medal with the original carton box. It was probably awarded and then never looked at again. The piece of ribbon was never mounted on the medal and the original papers about how the wear the medal were in the box. 

12 hours ago, Graf said:

Update of my collection of the silver medals of the Order

The first medal on the left is the first model with the hinged crown There is a mark on the crown next to the hinge "VI"

The crowns on the two medals to the left are mobile The crowns of the two medals to the right are fixed

The one with the big crown is the last model .

It is marked "MJV Silver  1966 " It came in a gray  box with the maker on the lid. I assume that those medals are presented in the gray boxes not the red one we know for the higher classes

I assembled them in chronological order as I assume they are . Although only the last model had the date stamped on the rim.

 

Nice collection!

Now you need the unique gold medal to complete the set. 

Can you show some more and better pictures of the grey box please?
My medal from 1974 came in a yellow carton box. 

Honestly I don't think your grey box is original to the medal. If the medal is marked on the rim MJV (Mynt och Justeringsverket = Swedish Mint) why whould it be in a box from C.F.C?

Do you know what the medal for science, art and music looks like? I found nothing on google. 

I found Glæsel by a lot of luck and a little bit hard work.

I made the assumption that the Wendish crown and Greek order was the most unusual and then searched through state calendars and writing down the possible matches and continued like this until there was only one possible candidate left. 

Without searchable state calendars I would never have found him, at least not so fast. 

Another of my (to many) projects is to make a excel file of all Swedes that received a Dannebrog orden.

After looking through other years of the danish state calendar without finding anyone else who fits I believe 
Henri Carl August Glæsel is the right guy and the missing piece is either the Russian St. Stanislaus 2nd class or the Italian order of the crown 3rd class. 

Henri Glæsel
Born: March 19 1853
Died: July 8 1921

5 minutes ago, Great Dane said:

Could also be a (higher ranking) court employee. The Dannebrog order and the Dannebrog Merit Cross look to be Christian IX versions and The Royal House had family connections with Greece and Mecklenburg as well as diplomatic relations in Siam/Thailand.

My homemade tool that searches for Danish Dannebrog recipients in 9 biographical tomes, 3 State- & Court calendars and 1 Who's Who couldn't flush him out though, but court employee often fly under the radar in these 'self-promotional' sources.

What do you think about this man?

Henri Carl August Glæsel
Arkitekt, Inspektør og Sekretær ved Statsinventarie-Kommissionen.

In the state calendar of 1912 he has the following:

Knight of the Dannebrog order
Dannebrog, Merit Cross (he got that in 1912)
French, Legion of Honour 4th class
Greece, Order of the Redeemer 4th class
Mecklenburg-Schwerin, Order of the Wendish crown 3rd class
Siam, Order of the crown 4th class
Prussia, Order of the crown 4th class
Russia, Order of St. Stanislaus 2nd class

Everything fits except the Russian order. But since there is one mini missing from the chain...
Would it be correct to have the St. Stanislaus after the Danish orders and before the French?
For me that seems a bit strange. 

In the state calendar of 1915 he also has

Italy, order of the crown 3rd class
UK, don't know what it is (Stb.Ed.VII & A.M in the calendar) The best fit would be the coronation medal, but that was from 1902, why is it not listed earlier? Or is there any other UK medal that would fit better?

First new piece for 2021!

Liberty cross 2nd class with homefront ribbon!
According to the seller it was awarded to a Swedish officer but without any proof, who knows?

I don't know how many crosses that was awarded with the yellow ribbon but it's a lot scarcer than the red war ribbon. 

Sorry for the bad pictures. The sun doesn't want to cooperate with me. 

Work is in progress to transcribe the Swedish award rolls. So in the future we will know exactly how many awards were made by Sweden. 

The main problem is lack of time, as always. 

Adolf is in the crowd

Impressive collection!

Hello!
 

As far as I know, there is no such research done. In general there are not that much research available on Swedish medals. 

The recipients of the medal För berömliga gärningar is not published in the state calender, so it would probably be difficult to find information about how many were awarded. 

Can you show a picture of your piece?

If you haven't seen it already there is one for sale at Suomen postimerkkilehti auction in January. 

I have no idea, but it's a question I have been thinking of. 

If they have kept all orders that were sent in after the recipients death, they must have enormous amounts of orders in stock.  

Just the commander class of the order of the Sword have been awarded just over 5000 times since it's institution. 
 

But it's a question worth asking the royal chancellery about. 

The royal palace have a very impressive collection of orders in exhibition.
So if you ever go to Stockholm, it's well worth a visit. 

Glad to be of assistance.

It’s a very simplified explanation but at least it’s something. 

The discussion about abolishing the orders had been going on since the 1800s. But as long as the king had power, the governmemt couldn’t abolish them. When the power was transferred to the government they could. 

Hello!

In the change of constitution in 1974 when the king lost all his political power the government decided to stop awarding orders to Swedish citizens. The main reason was that it was a thing of the past and the abolishment of different social classes. All citizens are equal and to differentiate with the use of orders was unappropriate. 

The order of the Sword and Order of Vasa was declared "resting" but still existing, just not awarded anymore. The order of the North star is still awarded but only to foreigners and members of the royal house. Same thing with the order of the Seraphim. 

So today it's impossible for a "normal" Swedish citizen to receive a Swedish royal order.   

Hopefully the orders will be "re-instituted" in a near future. 

2 hours ago, 1812 Overture said:

I can open it too, there is no virus prompt, but I can’t see any pictures (pretend to be happy)

Strange. But here are one of the photos for you to enjoy. 

He got the Swedish order on December 8th 1894.

Hello!

It's field marshal Harold Alexander and the picture is probably from their meeting in april 1945.

There are alot of information about Alexander if you google him. 

Strange, I don't get any warning and it's a well known auction house. 

You may try to go the long way and go to www.probusauktioner.se and click on "catalogue 35...." in the top right
and then "samtliga utrop" and the orders are on page 10. 

The Order of Merit of the Prussian Crown that was awarded to Swedish prime minister Arvid Lindman was sold today in auction for 370 000 SEK which is about 36 000 € plus 22,5% commission.

Apparently only 57 ever awarded!

See the beautiful pictures here:

https://prob.auction2000.se/auk/w.object?inC=PROB&inA=20200526_1458&inO=446

The short answer is yellow ribbon for 2nd class and up. This changed however to
red ribbon for front line awards and yellow ribbon for homefront /civilian awards. 

Today all awards are with yellow ribbon, if awarded for gallantry under enemy fire it's awarded with a rosette (these are very rare). If Finland would be in war again, I suppose the ribbons would be red and marked with the year of the outbreak of war on the back. 

Libertycross 4th class with red cross 1941 was awarded 861 times. But I don't know how many was on red vs. yellow ribbon. 

The picture is bad. If the sun decide to show up I will try to make better pictures. 

But yes, the front has been polished and there is nothing strange about the year on the back.
It only looks flat on the picture, not in real life. 

As far as I know, Sporrong never made any 1918 medals with red cross, they only made the medal without cross. 
I have never seen or heard of any red cross medals with hallmarks since they are made of silvered bronze. 
(Just like the ones from 1939, the early ones are made from silvered bronze and the later in hallmarked silver)

Since the sun apparently not is on my side today, I made a scan of my newest find. 

1st class medal with red cross 1918!

According to Tiainens book it was awarded 197 times, but I have also heard that probably only a fraction of those was with the red cross and most got the normal medal (without cross). 

Anyway this medal have eluded me for years since it's so rare. But now it's mine and it completes my collection of 1918 medals and crosses, from 1st class crosses down to 2nd class medals.

During the last years I've seen one of these for sale (this one) and 4-5 Libertycrosses 3rd class 1918 (and those was only awarded 22 times). That gives an idea of how difficult these are to find. 

Here is a piece from my collection. 

Awarded to a Swedish major in 1964.

Since 1926 (if I remember correctly) only Swedish recipients recieve orders in gold, foreigners receive gilded bronze. 

I have finally found a missing piece for my Libertycross collection! Almost two years since the last time.

This time it's a piece that I haven't seen for sale in many years, I've hardly even seen it on pictures.

If the sun decide to show up tomorrow I will take some pictures of it.

He got the Swedish Order of the Sword on August 3rd 1905