JohanH

Hello!

I can't help you to ID the medal, but it's most likely from the coastal artillery (Kustartilleriet). 

As you say, probably a non-official society. 

10 minutes ago, Great Dane said:

An interesting variation in the suspension...

Was there more than one manufacturer?

Or maybe the Thies one just looks 'squeezed' due to hallmarks?

 

Interesting point! 

The Thies piece is hallmarked to Tillander which was the official producer. 

Perhaps the one sold in 2020 was a wearers copy and the official ones are made from hallmarked silver?

Here are the pictures from Thies. 

Price 18 000€

Finnland Mannerheim1 - Kreuz 1. Klasse. - Auktionshaus Andreas Thies (andreas-thies.de)

In the Danish state calendar of 1943 and 1944 he is listed as captain. 

In the state calendar of 1946 he is listed as oberst. 

In 1948-49 he is listed as oberst and has some more awards. 

In 1953 he is generalmajor. 

Unfortunately I don't have all the years of the State calendar, but with this you might get an idea of his promotions.

At least it's a beginning...

He received the Order of the Sword on May 29th 1947. 

He was one of totally 82 Danes that got the commander 1st class. 

What is the width of the Swedish ribbon? It looks wider than some of the other. 
 

If it is a ribbon for a commander class order, I can check how many danish recipients there were when I get home. 
 

Here are two that has a connection to Finland. 

Neither are attributed yet, but I think it would be fairly easy to find the original owners of them. 

The first one probably belonged to a Swedish doctor who made some effort in/for Finland during the war. 

A quick search gave me a possible name that I need to look up further. 

The other one is a miniature chain that probably belonged to a Swedish veterinary who also made some effort for Finland during the war. 

Here is his entry in the roll of the Swedish order of the Sword. 

Ludwig von Falkenhausen received the commander 2nd class of the Swedish order of the Sword on August 31st 1888.

It's been a bit slow here laterly...

So here are a few more pieces. Nothing spectacular though. 

The above miniature from the Royal Patriotic Society is not the more than common Long faithful service variant but the much more rare/unusual variant "För förtjänster om yrkenas förkofran".

Thank you for your reply.

I have discussed this topic with a very knowledgeable collector and he has in his collection an officers cross (identical to mine) with solid provenance. So I am 100% comfortable that my crosses are totally original and legit. 

Both him and me seriously doubts that there should be different classes of the crosses. 

No one seem to have ever seen any other types than the two I show and the one you show (from Jani). 

The one with swords that is shown in Glushko's book is made in photoshop (or similar) and does not show a real cross with swords.

The one you show without enamel is the enlisted men's cross.  Which is also what Tiainen states in his book. 

Swedish Order of the Sword:

Commander 1st class on January 10th 1876

Swedish Order of the Sword:

Commander 1st class on July 19th 1905

Grand cross on June 6th 1908

Swedish Order of the Sword:

Commander 1st class on June 6th 1908.

Swedish Order of the Sword:

Grand cross on August 3rd 1905

Swedish Order of the Sword:

Commander 1st class on December 8th 1894

Grand cross on August 3rd 1905

Thank you both for your replies!

I have started the work with going through the lists of recipients of the Stockholm medal and compiling the lists to one single list. Right now there are 66 different lists that I will compile into one searchable list. 

When I find a possible ID, I will post it here!

35 minutes ago, 1812 Overture said:

Please help me find out where my order comes from? Native Spain? 130.73 kB · 0 downloads

I feel that my order-making time should be earlier than Mr. Graf's.

G. Traburo was a manufacturer in Madrid, Spain. 

Here are a few more.

The chain of Olympic shooter Paulus Palén. 

Unknown volunteer from Svenska Brigaden in Finland. 

Unknown skiier. 

Unknown NCO. Probably a navy guy since alot of russian medals went to naval personnel. 

Unknown person with the Stockholm medal and a Romanian medal. 

No one know anything about this medal?

Here is the reason why I ask. 

I would like to ID the owner of this miniature bar. 

There are lists of both the Swedish North Star and the Stockholm Merit medal. So if there are several possibilities the Romanian medal is the key to ID the original owner. 

Here are a few more. 

One French that I hope to be able to ID in the future. 

One Finnish from a person who fought in three wars. Libertywar, winterwar and continuation war.  

And the miniatures that belonged to Carlo von Dardel. The Swedish consul in Australia. 

11 hours ago, larsb001 said:

Johan & Jonas. thank you so far for trying to identify those two groups with the Bravery Medal and this discussion.

 

I cannot add much more about the regarding the ribbon mounted group. I bought it from Mynthuset in 1995 and they claimed it came from the estate of Janek, but on the other hand they were not 100% sure. I was often in Stockholm at that time and discussed the provenience with Jönsson from Sveavägen who referred to an recent published article in the NNF magazine anout the awards of the Bravery Medal in Gold with Crown. I understood that only a few, 2-3, were awarded with Crown and that Janek should be one of them. I also discussed it with Jan Selin (the older one) who took a special interest in the Bravery Medal, he claimed that Janek would also be a possibility, the same message came from Bjarne Ahlström. But if Janek only got the Silver medal it cannot be him! But with those very few awards of the Medal with Crown I assume an identification could be possible if you have the lists? The miniature itself is different from the others I've seen, the front and back is struck as two separate disks which is then soldered together.

 

Regarding the chain the Bravery medal is actually gilded Silver (although it may not appear as such on the scan), so actually the Gold Medal and as I understand you this could be atributed to Erik Stålberg? Do you happen to have more info, searching using google doesn't really add much?

 

Thanks, Lars

Lars, do you know for certain that the full size medal was with crown?

Since private purchased miniatures don’t always correspond exactly to the full sized awarded medal. I think we all have seen examples were the miniature is of a different type or class than the awarded one. 

With such a rare medal as yours it could be that the jeweler only had the new type with crown…

I agree that no one else of the persons listed fits for the medalbar and that the best fit is Nyström.

But in my opinion I don't think the miniaturebar belonged to Nyström simply because he didn't get the russian order. 

OR if the Tapperhet i Fält or the russian order is replaced. 

I would say that it needs further research before it can be attributed. 

20 hours ago, Jonas E said:

The ribbon mounted one probably belonged to Pehr Ludvig Nyström.

 

 

None of my lists show any russian orders at all to Pehr Ludvig Nyström.

What source did you use to find that he received the Russian order of S:t Anna?

1 hour ago, GM1 said:

Here are some of mine, with the  Royal Order of the Polar Star (in gold),  Commemorative Stockholm Summer Olympics 1912, Swedish Landsturm medal, among others.

 

Sadly no attributed.

 

Bert regards,

 

GM1

Nice miniature chain!

And now it is attributed too...

Generallöjtnant Thomas Georg Nyström 

Born: 1865-06-20 in Karlskrona

Died: 1942-11-01 in Stockholm