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    Tom Y

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    1. Recently purchased this cross which was described as

      For sale here is a German (Prussian) Iron Cross with iron core and made in the correct three part construction.

      side features the oak leaves and monogram of Friedrich Wilhelm (FW) and the date 1813. The other side is plain blackened iron.

      The ring is stamped IW which I assume to be the Berlin maker ?Wagner?.

      The dimensions are as follows:

      Width across arms : 42.2 mm

      Weight excluding ribbon : 12.0 grammes

      General condition : the German silver frame is tarnished with age. There is some rusting to the core. There are several dents and knocks. Generally well worn condition.

      The ribbon is a good length of 9cm when folded and appears to be old and original in feel etc.

      I can not say if this is an actual 1813 piece or if it was made later as an anniversary piece. Certainly an old item.

      thought i had better double cheque whils i have a return period if unhappy

      thanks !!

      Be unhappy. The loose fit, plus the 2 semilunes on the lower arm Look like a 1914 with a "machinist's special" rework and the ribbon is for an 1870 or 1914. The dimensions of the 1813 stripes were different. http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f36/wild...0War/ZZ1813.jpg

    2. In 1840 Wilhelm II of W?rttemberg established an award for veterans of all ranks of the Freedom War. It was to be made of captured French guns and inscribed with a Fraktur W on the obverse and on the reverse the number of engagements the recipient participated in, from 1 to 14. Those for up to 11 engagements are known to exist.

      In 1849 it was reinstated with slight modifications: a Roman W on the obverse of that for one engagement, and a Fraktur W on that for 2 for the Schleswig-Holstein War of 1848. This award is rare, as there was only 1 battalion of W?rttemberg infantry participating.

      In 1866 it was revived again by King Karl for the Seven Weeks' War, this time siding with Austria against Prussia. It bore a Fraktur K for Karl and was for one engagement only. A Schnalle with a wreathed and crowned W was awarded for 2 engagements.

      This is the 1866 version coupled with the 70/71 Prussian KDM.

      How soon they forget :cheeky:

      Wuerttemberg66.jpg

    3. Must be for cadets... they rounded the point off so they cannot hurt themselves....

      Yup... these navy folks have to be looked after.... :P

      It was the custom on American ships to break the tip of sailors' knives to keep them from hurting each other :rolleyes:

    4. Some opinions on this hollow example would be appreciated. I know these types are rare, and I don't recall ever seeing a fake one. But what do you think of the fastening setup? Definitely not what I usually see on these....

      It looks like it was originally a screwback that was converted. Is that verdigis around the hinge and catch or a poor job of soldering?

    5. Here you can see the iron in the crown.[attachmentid=63492]

      The repeat bar isn't the usual tab type, but atached by 2 pins and the swords appear to be sweated on. The ends of the bar have shear marks, so it's possible that tabs were removed before mounting.[attachmentid=63493]

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