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As a complement to the thread Spanish-Moroccan Mehdauia Order awarded to Kriegsmarine admirals opened by Kriegsmarine Admiral, I propose this new one to include photographs (portraits, ribbon bars or gropus) and data with non-Spanish recipients of this order
Between 1926 and 1956 some 10,378 awards of this Order were awarded.
Not counting those to Moroccans (some 1,700), 571 concessions went to foreigners, mainly Italians (230), Germans (130) and Portuguese (83). Also French, British, from Latin American countries (Argentina, Dominican Republic, Uruguay, Cuba or Puerto Rico) and others (Syria, Arabia, Lebanon, Egypt, Philippines, Norway, Japan, Greece, Holland and the United States).
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Thanks to all
Tou can see the categories at;
https://coleccionesmilitares.com/medallas/texto/mehdauia.htm
Rifaat (knight) and variant only il silver nor enamelled
Litizas (Officer)
Saada (commander)
Fajama (Knight Commander)
Bronze insignia
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51 minutes ago, 922F said:
Another aspect of this Order concerns insignia size. At least Spanish and Italian firms manufactured stars and badges. My notes indicate that most Spanish [Castells and perhaps Cejalvo] stars measure about 55 to 62 mm diameter with 42 mm badges. Italian [marked Gardino and Johnson plus not verified Alberti] stars size from about 75 mm to 80 mm with badges from 46 to 55 mm diameter at widest points. Antonio already indicated that Saada stars are silver and Fajama and Sumú-u gilt. I find no reference to grant of a star with the collar--Antonio have you an idea?
It appears that these German recipients wear larger size stars.
Statutes indicate, as Antonio noted, that heads of state receive the Kil-lada [collar] grade. Kai Meyer of Copenhagen had 4 Mehdauia collars as well as 2 collars of the Order of Hasania, another Spanish Moroccan Order, in his collection in 1980. Meyer owned an award manufacturing firm; these collars may have been acquired from excess stock of his Spanish colleagues. He did, however, buy a tremendous number of awards from dealers as well as directly from awardees, some of whom would NOT permit identification.
Thank you for this informations
The lmage of the collar in auction some years ago. The collar is not with a plaque or star
The first pieces from the late twenties and early thirties were from Cealvo.
I have never seen a real piece of the collar of the Hasania Order. No less than two had this Kai Meyer whom I unfortunately do not know
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The granting of Grand Cross of the Order of Naval Merit to Canaris. must be prior to October 1937. I do not know the specific date, but at the end of this month it had not been awarded, because they did not have insignia available and that only would get from January 1938. Perhaps it would be imposed in mid-February 1938 on a visit to Burgos
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Of course the regulation is clear regarding the position of the badges. It is possible that whoever imposed them was not very clear about it, or that they simply made a mistake when putting them
I understand that it refers to the Collar of the Order created in 1937 (The category Kil-lada (Great Collar) of the order of the Mehdauia is created, which can only be granted to Heads of State).Years ago one of them was put up for auction.
We only know of three concessions: that of Khalifa Muley el Hassan, that of Francisco Franco, Caudillo of Spain and Head of State, granted in April 1938, and that of Antonio Oscar de Fragoso Carmona, president of the Portuguese Republic, granted in June of the same year.
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A new mistake. The Comendador de número only is a plaque, not a neck badge
The Mehdauia Order comprises the following five classes:
First. Rifaat (Knight). In this category, both the Solomonic ring and the ornaments will be silver. It is suspended from the left side of the chest.
Second. Litizás (Officer). It differs from the previous one only in that the Solomonic ring and ornamentation motifs will be gold, as well as the contours. Also hang on the left side.
Third. Saada (Commander). The same insignia, only set in a silver disk, and pinned to the left side of the chest.
Quarter. Fajama (Commander of number). Like the previous one, and set in a gold disc, hanging on the right side of the chest.
Fifth. Sumú-u (Grand Cross). Identical to the previous one and attached to the left side, also wearing a sash that crosses the chest from right to left and from whose end hangs the second class insignia.Between 1926 and 1956 some 10,378 awards of this Order were awarded.
Not counting those to Moroccans (some 1,700), 571 concessions went to foreigners, mainly Italians (230), Germans (130) and Portuguese (83). Also French, British, from Latin American countries (Argentina, Dominican Republic, Uruguay, Cuba or Puerto Rico) and others (Syria, Arabia, Lebanon, Egypt, Philippines, Norway, Japan, Greece, Holland and the United States).
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Captain Hans Langsdorff, commander of the Graf Spee, on April 27, 1939 in Ceuta. Commander of the Mehdauia Order, which was granted to him in 1938 Accompanied by General Beigdeber
No. It is an intermediate category between the Commander and the Grand Cross. It is the plaque to be worn on the right side of the chest, instead of the left
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The correct name of the Order is "Order Mehdauia". Created in 1926 in the Spanish Protectorate of Morocco to perpetuate the memory of the first Khalifa Muley el Mehdi Ben Ismail Ben Mohamed. About 130 insignias of these order were awarded in their different categories, mainly between 1937 and 1942 to german military an civilian people.
Always, according to the record books (manuscripts)
For Klüber (397), Plath (398), Schenk (402) and Riedel (403) were all later admirals.
4) Otto Ciliax:
Awarded the Comendador de número (Fajama). Record number 120. Date: 5.3.1938
6) Hermann von Fischel:
Thinking that the double concession is an error, I have chosen, without defined criteria, the last date. If at any time I find additional documentation or the date of imposition, it could change
1) Wilhelm Canaris:
My mistake. The correct date is 17.11.1938
Any pic of any of these show the Order of Mehdauia insignas are very welcome
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See the concessions of the Order Medhauia. In bold type the 10 related
GEOTTFRED MOLLMANN CO Navy Commander 05/11/1937
KURT BÖHMER CO Navy Commander 13/05/1938
OTTO KLUBER CO Navy Commander 13/05/1938
JOACHIM PLATH CO Navy Commander 13/05/1938
HANS LANGSDORFF CO Navy Captain 13/05/1938
WILHELM MEENDSEN (MUNDSEN) BOHLKEM CO Navy Commander 13/05/1938
OTTO SCHENK CO Navy Captain 13/05/1938
THEODOR-HEINRICH BIEDEL CO Navy Captain 13/05/1938PAUL WENNEKER CN Navy Captain of Deutschland 05/11/1937
OTTO CILIAX CN Navy Captain 05/03/1938
LEOPOLDO BURKNER CN Navy Captain 23/07/1939
WILHELM MARSCHALL GC Rear Admiral 05/11/1937
CARLS ROLF GC Generaladmiral 05/04/1938
HERMANN BOEHM GC Vice Admiral 05/04/1938
HERMANN VON FISCHEL GC Rear Admiral 05/04/1938
WILHELM CANARIS GC Vice Admiral 17/11/1938Order of Mehdauia
GC. Grand Cross
CN: Commander with plaque
CO: Commander.2 -
At the moment it is the information that I have found. Something else may appear.
The classes of these crosses are usually by ranks, and it is not necessary to be the lower category
In general
Silver, for the classes and individuals of sailors and troops.
1st class, for officers and assimilates.
2nd, for corvette captains, frigate captains, commanders, lieutenant colonels and assimilates.
3rd, navy captains, colonels and assimilated.
Grand Cross, admiral, general and similar officers.
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19) Erich (Hans Albert) Raeder:
- Grand Cross of the Spanish Order of Naval Merit with White Decoration (16 November 1928), awarded by HM the King Alfonso XIII for the attentions received while passing through Kiel on the occasion of the trip to Sweden
- Grand Cross of the Spanish Order of Naval Merit with White Decoration (17 September 1930) for special services rendered to the Spanish Navy, with reason for the visit of the Destroyer Squadron to the German Baltic ports20) Karl-Jesko von Puttkamer:
- Spanish Order of Naval Merit 1st Class with White Decoration (16 November 1928), awarded by HM the King Alfonso XIII for the attentions received while passing through Kiel on the occasion of the trip to Sweden. See file Kiel.pdf13) Wilhelm Canaris:
- Spanish Order of Naval Merit 2nd Class with White Decoration (16 November 1928), awarded by HM the King Alfonso XIII for the attentions received while passing through Kiel on the occasion of the trip to Sweden. See file Kiel.pdf
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A new article, only in spanish but with a lot of images
— "Escudos de distinción". OMNI Revista de numismática, 15 (2021), pp. 242-267
http://www.wikimoneda.com/OMNI/revues/OMNI_15.pdf0 -
Yes, thank you, Megan.
I am looking at the new images in your site.
There may be at least 180 pieces, distributed in 66 crosses, 24 medals, 86 shields of distinction —or of honor— and 4 with other names. These totals do not include those of the British, Portuguese or other states such as Brunswick or Hannover.
Image of the book
Historia de las Órdenes de Caballería y de las Condecoraciones Españolas. Madrid. Ed. José Gil Dorregaray, 1865
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Some foreigners recipients can see. perhaps only of the french troops: Switzerland Regiments, italian and german states, some sopanish of the Foreign Legion
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You can see the database Leonore, but not swow all the receipts
https://www.leonore.archives-nationales.culture.gouv.fr/
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The cross is enameled red when it is awarded for war merit, and white when it is awarded for other services. The ribbon is of red silk with a central white list for the red cross and with the same inverted colors for the white cross.See some items at:0
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Thank you again
I believe that the Odagiri Masanosuke, is the Japanese consul-general in Shanghai, during this confilct
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Thank you for the images
The first, with the japanese letters (Any can translate?) wear the Cross with red badge
The other with white badge
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Thank you
Yes I kown this images.
The ideal for my work would be to find images where the Grand Cross of the Order of Military Merit could be seen, like this one of General Fujii that I have finally found
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Does anyone know if there is any worlwide orderS or medals like the spanish Royal and Military Order San Hermenegildo that meets these conditions?- constancy in service- faultless conduct- have something similar to assembly with functions like- Appreciate faultless conduct, for the purposes of admission, promotion or permanence in the Order.- Propose resolutions to the files on admission, promotion and dismissal in the Order,- ensure compliance with these regulations.Any comments is appreciatedThanks0
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The correct name of the Chief of Staff of the 1st Army is Shigeta Fujii not Fuyie. Sorry.
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Anyone can identify or know the name of this Japanese general, perhaps one of the decorated in 1907 by King Alfonso XIII after the Russo-Japanese war of 1904-1905?
Among others show a Spanish Grand Cross of the Military merit order with red badge
I'm also looking for images of the following:
General Fuyie, Chief of EM of the 1st Army.
Brigadier General Toyosaburo Ochiai.
Brigadier General Kosuke Ijichi, Chief of EM of the 3rd Army.
Brigadier General Naomichi Osako.
General Nagata, head of the Independent Field Artillery Brigade in the 3rd Army.
Lieutenant Colonel of Artillery, of the General Staff Service Jenjiro Ishiskaka.
Captain of Engineers S. Shibau.
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Spanish-Moroccan Mehdauia Order awarded to Kriegsmarine admirals
in Spain
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This is what the creation order says
The central part of the insignia is made up of an enameled circle, in which the sunset is represented, that is, El Mogreb, reflected in a blue-green sea. Circumscribed to this circle is a strip, also made of enamel and Prussian blue, limited by a golden border. Everything described above is enclosed in a Solomonic ring.
The ribbon from which the decoration hangs is green, with a white central stripe.
On the reverse, in a circle of white enamel, the following Arabic inscription reads: Muley el Mehdi Ben Ismail Ben Mohamed, may God glorify him. The plaque for Commanders and Grand Crosses (or their equivalents) is identical, with the only difference that it goes on a silver or gold disk, depending on the category, and with the same ornamentation motifs, but enlarged, without any inscription.