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Romania Order of Queen Maria
Northman replied to Claire Redsull's topic in Central & Eastern European States
Bolye was buried in England and in 1983 his family managed to convince authorities to have his remains exhumed and reburied in Woodstock, Ontario, Canada. The original Romanian cross, urn and engraved grave slab cover were also brought back and placed over the new grave. But in time these were replaced with newer granite items. At least two biographies were written about Joe Boyle and with his adventures, as I said, a movie should be done about him. I will try to add an image of his grave on another post but I am still trying to figure it out. -
Romania Order of Queen Maria
Northman replied to Claire Redsull's topic in Central & Eastern European States
Queen Marie had an affair with a Canadian Lt. Col. Joseph Whiteside Boyle in 1918/1919. You should google his name to see more. Boyle was decorated three times from Romania with one of these awards being this order. He did allot of work and negotiations for Romania after the war. This is but a tip in the iceberg of stuff he did. He was also awarded with three awards from Russia (for services in Russia), DSO from Britian, Croix de Geurre from France but nothing, not even service medals, from his home country Canada. Marie loved him so much that when Boyle died she placed a special Romania cross on his grave. She also placed a huge slab covering the grave engraved with his name and this cross and her sigil in one corner. Marie also put an granite urn in which she potted orange lillies. Each year at the anniversary of Boyle's death, a woman dressed in black was always seen at the graveside replacing the lillies. After Marie's death, the lady in black stopped coming. It is wonder that a full length movie was never done about him. No surprise there because he was a Canadian. He is a true Canadian hero. -
I am looking into the bio of Lt. Col. J.K. Watson and who his family was. His father was Maj. Gen. James Watson, late 60th Rifles. What I am wanting to know if J.K. Watson had any siblings ? J.K. Watson had a colourful military career and served in Burma, India, Egypt, South Africa and 1st WW. He was close friends with Lord Kitchener. He was also decorated by France, Sweden, Belgium and Romania.
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Hi Mike I got the ancestry.com articles and they look great. I do have a picture of his memorial from Dawson City. It is along with a bunch of other soldiers fro the Yukon. For some reason I can not find the snap. I might have scanned it into my computer but my printer/scanner is down right now. Tim
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PM me your email and I can send along the links to the ancestry material (it's done through their site, so I can't just forward it.) Did you get a reply from the Archives? That is the most important, as it will give his service information. And since he was born over 120 years ago there should be no problem getting it released.
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This information is excellant. Really appreicate the help from you. I was not getting anywhere with the French vets web site. I did receive an email from them, in French, verifying my email address or soemthing like this but after that I was stuck on how to navigate the web site. Anyhow what you have sent has been most helpful. If you can find out more, please send it along. Tim
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DCM for Boer War - citation
Northman replied to Northman's topic in Great Britain: Orders, Gallantry, Campaign Medals
Hi Chris Yes it is the same man. He was a junior officer in the NWR. By 1989 he was a Maj and a reserve officer and was attached to the Yukon Field Force in 1898. He did go to the Boer War as an officer and came back. He went back again as an enlisted man and the was MID an awarded a DCM. He did serve again in the 1st WW and was commissioned briefly as an officer but finishing out the war as a senior NCO in service or veterarnian corps. He died in Scotland in the 1930's and was listed a Lt. Col. on his death certificate. Now that is interesting and how did he obtain such a rank ? He was commissioned by three sovereigns. Tim -
DCM for Boer War - citation
Northman replied to Northman's topic in Great Britain: Orders, Gallantry, Campaign Medals
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DCM for Boer War - citation
Northman replied to Northman's topic in Great Britain: Orders, Gallantry, Campaign Medals
Many thanks Peter for the info. Much appreciated. I will have to do some research to see if there are any unit diaries for the Boer War. Might be a tall order I think. Tim -
DCM for Boer War - citation
Northman replied to Northman's topic in Great Britain: Orders, Gallantry, Campaign Medals
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DCM for Boer War - citation
Northman replied to Northman's topic in Great Britain: Orders, Gallantry, Campaign Medals
Thanks for your help Peter. I am trying to find the citation for the DCM. Maybe the unit diaries might help if I know where to find them. Tim -
DCM for Boer War - citation
Northman replied to Northman's topic in Great Britain: Orders, Gallantry, Campaign Medals
Thanks alot Peter. I am trying to find the citation for the medal. Tim -
Great and thanks. I will check it out.
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Yes the officer is Joe W. Boyle. I have two bios on him and in each it describes the awards. Not enough credit was given to him because he spoke his mind and rubbed some of the higher officials the wrong way. I think they should do a movie about him. I am becoming more familiar with the grades of the awards that I am looking for. On that, I am trying to find a picture of the Order of Regina Marie that Boyle would have been awarded. I assume it would be an officer grade but what level I will have to re-read the chapters in the books I have and maybe it will have a clue there. When Boyle died, Marie looked after his burial and placed a Romanian headstone and urn on top of his grave. The flat slab concrete is inscribed with his name etc and the Order of Regina Marie along with her personal royal monogram. Once a year she would attend to his grave, clean it up and place a bunch of orange lilies in the urn. Orange lilies the colour of the ribbon of the order ? Yes I do believe she truly loved him.
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Yes the officer is Joe W. Boyle. I have two bios on him and in each it describes the awards. Not enough credit was given to him because he spoke his mind and rubbed some of the higher officials the wrong way. I think they should do a movie about him. I am becoming more familiar with the grades of the awards that I am looking for. On that, I am trying to find a picture of the Order of Regina Marie that Boyle would have been awarded. I assume it would be an officer grade but what level I will have to re-read the chapters in the books I have and maybe it will have a clue there. When Boyle died, Marie looked after his burial and placed a Romanian headstone and urn on top of his grave. The flat slab concrete is inscribed with his name etc and the Order of Regina Marie along with her personal royal monogram. Once a year she would attend to his grave, clean it up and place a bunch of orange lilies in the urn. Orange lilies the colour of the ribbon of the order ? Yes I do believe she truly loved him.
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I am looking for ones that would be issued during the 1st WW and Military divison. These three medals were awarded to a Canadian officer who had a love affair with Queen Maria and a confidant of the Romanian Royal family. He was also awarded three White Russian awards during the same time as well awarded a DSO from the British and a Croix de Guerre by the French. But yet no award, let alone any service medals, what so ever by the Cdn Govt.
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Five years is a long time yet to go. I should be retired myself from the RCMP by then. By the way, I did get almost an immediate response from the corrected email for the French military archives. You don't speak French, do you ? I will have to find an interpreter.